53Fan
02-17-2010, 12:58 PM
Nightmare Draft:
1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.
If Swartz can resist Suh and Gerald McCoy this could very well happen. Stafford could use the protection.
tryfuhl
02-17-2010, 12:59 PM
sorry to quote myself but couldnt we tender JC at the "original pick compensation" of 1.2 mil. then if another team signs him we would get a 1st rounder in return since JC was a 1st round pick?
instead of the 1st and 3rd.Well along with those tenders come things like the rights of first refusal, etc
the one that we'd put Campbell under would be:
"The player's original team maintains the Right of First Refusal and First Round Draft Selection and Third Round Draft Selection (both from the team with which he signs) if the team tenders an offer of one year at $2.792 million OR at least 110% of the player's prior year’s salary -- whichever is greater."
Granted you can get the right of first refusal otherwise, but with Campbell being the top FA QB you'll tender him highest and then work on negotiations otherwise. I think that his current salary has part to do with it as well.
Ask The Commish.com - Free Agency 101 (http://www.askthecommish.com/freeagency/)
Ruhskins
02-17-2010, 01:01 PM
Thats an ESPN writer writing that lol. Listen to the other NFL analysts who commented Campbell all game long. Did you hear Chris Collinsworth all game about Campbell on the Cowboys game? he thought Campbell wasn't a starter in his own words.
Its ok tho as long as we draft a QB for the future .
Matt Williamson actually works for Scouts Inc, breaks down tape and does analysis for ESPN. Not to say anything against Collinsworth, but I'll pay more attention to what the guys of Scouts Inc have to say about these issues. And my whole point was to counter your label of Campbell being a terrible QB.
Slingin Sammy 33
02-17-2010, 01:06 PM
Nightmare Draft:
1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.You meant perfect draft :)
firstdown
02-17-2010, 01:19 PM
I think you are exaggerating on Campbell's abilities, especially when you see analysts say thing like this...
NFL: The Carolina Panthers have depth problems at wide receiver - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4911628)
This is from your link talking about JC
"has a big strong arm to drive the ball down the field and is accurate enough."
Where the he!! do these guys get that he is accurate with the long ball? When he should lead the man inside he throws it outside and when he should lead the man outside he throws it out of bounds. When he does have someone wide open he gets excited and over throws the guy when all he needed to do was throw it with enough arch for the WR to make the play. I know he has the arm but he has never shown me the accuracy that some talk about.
tryfuhl
02-17-2010, 01:31 PM
I think that "is accurate enough" was meant to mean across all throws, not just the long ones
redskins202
02-17-2010, 01:46 PM
Here we go again with the candle crap...do you realize NO ONE is going to take anything you say seriously with that immaturity? (not that your points are valid and unbiased anyways)
I do believe we should draft a Tackle with that #4 pick. Even if we get Bradford or Claussen, they won't be able to develop without a solid line. Think David Carr.
We won't get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell from anyone, so even speculating about a trade like this is pointless. Our best bet for success is to build up the line and let Campbell run Shanny's offense, which is tailor-made for his skillset. Shanahan's offense is run-heavy but the QB's role is made easy for a mobile QB to succeed. He likes to use half of the field and roll out the QB a lot. When tjhe QB rolls out, he'll have 3 routes being run at different depths right in front of him...so the progressions are as easy as counting 1-2-3 as the QB looks at all open options right in front of him. If no one is immediately open, the QB can take off, something that Campbell does better than most QBs in the league. He just needs to learn how to slide!
I think JC will be highly successful in this offense IF we have an offensive line and running game, which could come with the rebuilding of the line. With out first two picks at least, we need a Tackle and a Center/Guard. Rabach is backup material and cost us far too many points and possessions. After that, draft a RB and LB. If LeFevour is around in rounds 4-6, get him to groom as the #2 QB and to compete with Colt Brennan, who may not even make the team if we get someone like LeFevour. Late picks, get more depth at OL, LB and maybe even a CB with last-round potential. No more "best available" picks...we have specific and vital needs this year that Vinny and his crew ignored for years.
There's more success drafting a first round QB than a 2nd or 3rd round QB. Bradford and Clausen have 2 times more upside than the other guys back there. And drafting an OT this year with our first isn't the right move at all. Why would we give every thing to a QB who's gonna be here for one year?.I find it unfair to how Drew Brees with to NO but didn't have alot of weapons intill he threw to Colston and found out he's pretty good. Same with Mcnabb he has no true#1 WR and still uses his weapons around him .
Try watching them, please.
YouTube - Osi Umenyiora Scores TD versus Redskins
On this video Jason Campbell has time but what he didn't do what he was suppose to step up into the pocket and by more time to throw or do something. Troy Aikman said that he should of done this and that and he's right.
I mean its just a video but look at the Bucs game with his INT's. He rebounded but this was the Bucs ..........
BigHairedAristocrat
02-17-2010, 01:52 PM
Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.
tryfuhl
02-17-2010, 01:54 PM
We all saw that last year.
SmootSmack
02-17-2010, 01:56 PM
Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.
Why do you think he's 2nd round caliber?