D'BOYZ
02-18-2010, 07:56 PM
In a few years? Dude he is 28 years old.. How much more time does this guy need? I like JC but his time is up in D.C, and yes I agree with you but Campbell is worth atleast a 2nd round pick.. Anyone who takes a beaten like JC did last year deserves a good pick lol.
I'm not saying he will succeed in Was man butwith all the OC and HC hae has had to face the kid is a mess he needs at least 2 more years in a system that fits him so he can lead a team....
If I was your team I would put a equal tender o nthe kid (1st) which would be cheaper no way anybody trade a 1st for him... and I would draft a young futre QB... I keep him for thsi year under Shanahan and see if he sees anything o nthe kid if not it gives me a year to groom the replacement
skinsfaninok
02-18-2010, 09:47 PM
I agree, If someone offered a 2nd or 3rd, I could see us trading him away. Honestly I think he deserves a shot at another team, i've heard around here that STL is interested in Campbell, also Buffalo is as well. I would deal him if we are going to draft Bradford. He could come in as a rookie and do a decent job (Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan) . Clausen? I dont know for sure..
Dirtbag59
02-18-2010, 10:20 PM
Thank you! Ben Rothlisberger and Aaron Rogers seem to be able to elevate their play with sub-par lines...why do we excuse JC's mediocrity?
The difference was the time they were given to throw. Ben and Rogers were able to complete 7 step drops. Their style is high risk high reward. Either they get sacked or a receiver breaks open and the offense gets a big completion.
JC behind our O-Line wasn't even able to complete much more then a 3 step drop. Thats the difference.
I'm not the biggest JC supporter but comparing JC to Big Ben and Rodgers because all three were frequently sacked isn't the way to go about arguing against JC.
GusFrerotte
02-18-2010, 11:45 PM
we already have, he was just on ir last year
Brennan isn't the man. Bradford had a stacked hand, but still faced a lot tougher opponents than Colt ever did. If we didn't take Brennan he would have gone undrafted. For a guy that set all those passing records at Hawaii, don't you think the other 31 teams passing him up would send you up some red flags? The only thing he had on Chase Daniel last season was size. If Chase was 6'3" or 6'4" Brennan would have been the one to get a SB ring.
tryfuhl
02-18-2010, 11:50 PM
2009 Sack Rates
Jason Campbell: 7.8%, 550 dropbacks
Aaron Rodgers: 8.5%, 591 dropbacks
Ben Roethlisberger: 9.0%, 556 dropbacks
Who made what look good again?
yeah they got hit more, but also put up better numbers
either way, great QB or not you shouldn't put up with that type of line if you care about your QB
GusFrerotte
02-18-2010, 11:53 PM
I agree, If someone offered a 2nd or 3rd, I could see us trading him away. Honestly I think he deserves a shot at another team, i've heard around here that STL is interested in Campbell, also Buffalo is as well. I would deal him if we are going to draft Bradford. He could come in as a rookie and do a decent job (Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan) . Clausen? I dont know for sure..
Big if Okie if he could(Bradford doing a good job as a rook). Ryan's and Flacco's sophmore seasons weren't so hot as their debut seasons. Ryan is a true QB. Flacco is just a game manager with a great supporting cast. Sanchez to me is somewhere in the middle, but closer to Flacco as being a game manager. I don't think Bradford will have the wideouts that Ryan has to do a lot of damage if he starts next season, that is if we draft him.
tryfuhl
02-19-2010, 12:10 AM
who's going to pay a 1st and 3rd for campbell he wasn't even worht the 1st yo uused nthe first place... he's an ok QB could be good i na few years maybe i nthe right system but no way worth a 1st and 3rd right now.... maybe a 3rd only.
jesus christ my screen is half red from the underlines of your shitty spelling
I'm more offended that you have no clue how the tender system works though
jesus christ my screen is half red from the underlines of your shitty spelling
I'm more offended that you have no clue how the tender system works though
I'm actually amazed that so many don't seem to understand about the way the tenders work. This isn't anything new.
Ruhskins
02-19-2010, 10:16 AM
I'm actually amazed that so many don't seem to understand about the way the tenders work. This isn't anything new.
I'm amazed that some people don't understand the concept of a restricted free agent, and that getting an RFA would typically consist of giving up a draft pick(s) in order to get them.
We could use a free agency FAQ, I'm too lazy to put it together though. And it's really just a Google away anyway so I don't feel bad for slapping someone down who doesn't do a basic search before chiming in with their "knowledge".