ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd

sooooooo

how long is your ban over at ES? I'm sure that they miss your insight


LOL !

I was thinking the same thing ... what is with all the negativity in Redskins nation at the moment ? I mean I have seen more positive discussion about the Redskins on the Cowboyszone board than I have on ES ....

I am not as convinced as the pundits are that we are going to take a QB in the first . I know Shananhan wants a QB to develop but there are so many holes ...

What is refreshing is we are not getting reports every five minutes about Allen and Shanahan are in love with X or Y ...

This 1-3 Tender almost guarantees that Campbell is going nowhere this season and I think that is the right decision . I think Campbell is a good QB on a bad team ... just mosdest improvements in play calling, running games and pass protection and Campbell will improve as he year on year .

What amazes me is how many want to give up on proven NFL players for the next shiny new thing from the ranks of the collage game .

Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.

I actually agree . I think any other year Clausen would be a mid round pick he is bolstered by being the starter in for three years in an improving program . His numbers are really not that impressive look at what is said about him in this scouting report

"Clausen started nine games in 2007, throwing for 1,254 yards with a 56.3 completition percentage (138-245) and a 7-6 touchdown-interception ratio. The numbers are not mind-boggling, but put them with a visibly weak offensive line, a lackluster running attack and almost no speed outside, and they are a testament to his ability. Clausen had a breakthrough sophomore campaign in 2008, when he passed for 3,172 yards, completing 60.9% (268-440) of his passes with an impressive 25-17 TD/INT ratio. He threw for 3,722 yards with 28 TDs and only 4 interceptions this past year to solidify his status as one of the best signal callers in the country."

Jimmy Clausen Scouting Report - 2010 NFL Draft Prospect (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2387)

In collage terms that is mediocre accuracy . The 28-4 TDs is good but I question how much that is the team and how much that is Clausen...

What concerns me more is the various reports about his attitude . I think it may be overblown but I think attitude is the one thing that stops NFL player reaching their potential . Cutlers Child like mentality lost Shanahan his job when Cutler broke apart the locker room, he subsequently managed to damage his own career by being traded to an inferior team because he cried about Josh McDaniel's looking ( but not putting in a trade request or making significant esquires) at other QBs .

The biggest bone of contention publically revolves around when he started his college career with an announcement at the College Hall of Fame where he arrived in a limo and wearing a handful of high school championship rings, wants to clear up any and all concerns that he might be an arrogant prima donna of a quarterback whose attitude is incompatible with the NFL's subdued corporate identity, locktight PR protocols, and demanding workload.

Other have said he has an abrasive attitude and really doesn't have that top tier WOW talent that makes you over look it . I could see Clausen becoming like a Jay Shcroder mk 2.0 or worse a Jay Cutler or Jeff Geroge . The guy he most reminds me of is Chris Simms .

That said I am not a NFL talent evaluator and if the Redskins FO see something in him and take him 4th overall then I will give the guy a chance but if we pass on him then I am not going to be supprized or upset .

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;663755]we would never get a 1st and 3rd for him, tender him for something we would get for him like a 3rd or 4th[/QUOTE
(I am ready to see him move on too)
but for a 3rd or a 4th?...

that is months of a shock-worn bias talking there..He threw for 3600 yards...is not a turnover machine and has been a solid professional in a situation not of his making

that should get him more attention from GMs than the value you've placed on him

Most folks have Clausen going top 10. Matt McGuire at Walter Football makes the argument for Clausen very strong. McShay is wrong on this one.

WalterFootball.com: The NFL Matt Draft - Matt McGuire's NFL Draft Blog (http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php)

"First, I am going to tell you why you might not like Clausen......Notre Dame is the most hated football program in America, period. They are the Duke of the gridiron. Automatically, you hate Clausen because he went to Notre Dame, just like you hated J.J. Reddick because he went to Duke. If you want to make an analysis as objective and professional as possible, then you need to cut the crap and get over the Notre Dame hate if you have it - and a lot of that is out there.......

Maybe you don't like Clausen because of the blond, spiky hair, or the limo appearance he had when he was a senior in high school to declare for Notre Dame. These aren't "low profile" characteristics and automatically, you might have disliked him. For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this blog entry."

strong stuff...stats rarely lie

Taking skilled players when we need OL. Is Vinny still in control?

Two words....Matt Cassel.

I just dont understand this crap. JC would be a better than average QB in this league with an offensive line that could block. If you look at statistics that were put out, when Jason had average time to deliver the ball he was as good as anyone in the league. And that is vertually with NO running game to speak of, and really no WR that could get open on a regular basis, and our best threat hurt (cooley). This organization is so damn bent on getting Campbell out of Washington, its blinded itself. If they built this team correctly by getting the most important pieces in place, then we wouldn't even be looking for a QB, or an entirely built offensive line. We could be drafting a RB(which in my opinion is something we need as much as anything), or a top corner to put beside Hall, or a freaking FS so Landry can stop getting burnt in coverage.

I wish they would just do the right thing and draft TWO offensive lineman, one in the 1st and one in the second. that is two starting offensive lineman that would be centerpieces for years to come. Give Campbell a chance, hell give Colt a chance to play behind someone that can block. This may give us another of dealing with Portis, (personally I hope he is gone) or we could even get a guy in the 4th, or move up to the 3rd to get a RB. I just feel the furthest thing we need to draft is a QB right now.

this would KILL the kids confidence if he is literally beat to hell behind an horrible o-line, just like poor Campbell was this year and Ramsey was a few years back.

I just read everyone's post on the topic and I still would rather keep Jason than draft any QB in the 1st round. We were 4-12 in 2009 and JC was not the sole reason. We had to many injuries on the O-Line to list. We had no running game this year and a soft defense that got exposed as the season went on. We need to fix our horrible O-Line with the 1st and 2nd rd picks. These picks have to start from day 1. If we pick a QB than we know he will not be ready to play from day 1. If a rookie QB is starting than get ready for another 4-12 season with this horrible O-Line.

I just dont understand this crap. JC would be a better than average QB in this league with an offensive line that could block. If you look at statistics that were put out, when Jason had average time to deliver the ball he was as good as anyone in the league. And that is vertually with NO running game to speak of, and really no WR that could get open on a regular basis, and our best threat hurt (cooley). This organization is so damn bent on getting Campbell out of Washington, its blinded itself. If they built this team correctly by getting the most important pieces in place, then we wouldn't even be looking for a QB, or an entirely built offensive line. We could be drafting a RB(which in my opinion is something we need as much as anything), or a top corner to put beside Hall, or a freaking FS so Landry can stop getting burnt in coverage.

I wish they would just do the right thing and draft TWO offensive lineman, one in the 1st and one in the second. that is two starting offensive lineman that would be centerpieces for years to come. Give Campbell a chance, hell give Colt a chance to play behind someone that can block. This may give us another of dealing with Portis, (personally I hope he is gone) or we could even get a guy in the 4th, or move up to the 3rd to get a RB. I just feel the furthest thing we need to draft is a QB right now.

this would KILL the kids confidence if he is literally beat to hell behind an horrible o-line, just like poor Campbell was this year and Ramsey was a few years back.

If Campbell could put up the kind of numbers he did with virtually no running game, (to speak of) no line to block for him, and a coaching staff that had no idea what the hell they were doing, I'd sure like to see what he could do with all the above.

Would you keep him on the roster as a backup? Supposing that you couldn't trade him, and it was either keep him or let him go.

I'd keep him. I expect he could beat out a rookie (although I wouldnt bet on it) and maybe start until the rookie was ready to go in week 10.

There is an bit in today's Wash Post where it says that Mel Kiper projects that it looks more & more that the Skins will take Clausen at #4.