Lotus
02-17-2010, 02:48 PM
No way we get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell. It just won't happen. Plus we should keep him anyway because Bradford will be a rookie.
This talk of contract tender has nothing to do with trade value. If this report is right, we are not trading JC for a 1 and a 3. We are simply offering a contract at that level. Then, if we want to trade him, we can trade him for whatever we want.
T.O.Killa
02-17-2010, 02:49 PM
I think he is wrong. If the Redskins tender him like that it would simply be out of respect. They can give him a low level tender and still get a first(must give original pick). Mid level tender would give us a second, which would be good value for Jason.
Slingin Sammy 33
02-17-2010, 03:31 PM
Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.Here's another link for you:
Mel Kiper: Jimmy Clausen jumps inside the top 5 in the pre-combine mock - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4918277&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfl %2Fdraft10%2Finsider%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D4918277 )
You and McShay are in the minority on this one.
WaldSkins
02-17-2010, 03:35 PM
Im more interested to find out what Carlos Rogers tender is
Kalisto2010
02-17-2010, 03:39 PM
Hell if we got a 1st and 3rd for him I'd vote for Obama in 2012.
Ditto, only I would vote for Sarah Palin!
SmootSmack
02-17-2010, 03:50 PM
For all his starting experience you'd think he'd have even a little pocket presence and feel for the position but he doesnt. I agrre that he could be a decent back up but he's not a starter that will take a team anywhere.
Would you keep him on the roster as a backup? Supposing that you couldn't trade him, and it was either keep him or let him go.
mlmdub130
02-17-2010, 03:57 PM
Would you keep him on the roster as a backup? Supposing that you couldn't trade him, and it was either keep him or let him go.
i would love for him to be our back-up qb, that would be awesome, but i don't see that happening
GTripp0012
02-17-2010, 04:06 PM
Most folks have Clausen going top 10. Matt McGuire at Walter Football makes the argument for Clausen very strong. McShay is wrong on this one.
WalterFootball.com: The NFL Matt Draft - Matt McGuire's NFL Draft Blog (http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php)
"First, I am going to tell you why you might not like Clausen......Notre Dame is the most hated football program in America, period. They are the Duke of the gridiron. Automatically, you hate Clausen because he went to Notre Dame, just like you hated J.J. Reddick because he went to Duke. If you want to make an analysis as objective and professional as possible, then you need to cut the crap and get over the Notre Dame hate if you have it - and a lot of that is out there.......
Maybe you don't like Clausen because of the blond, spiky hair, or the limo appearance he had when he was a senior in high school to declare for Notre Dame. These aren't "low profile" characteristics and automatically, you might have disliked him. For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this blog entry."Agreed that McShay is wrong on Clausen. It's not preposterous to grade him as a second rounder, at least no more preposterous than grading him as a top five type, but he compares favorably (IMO) to Stafford, Sanchez, and Freeman from a year ago, and Stafford and Sanchez both had top half of the round grades from McShay.
Taking him at four...probably a bit of a stretch. But in the Dirtbag trademarked Bradford-Okung-Suh scenario, Clausen isn't really more of a reach than Bulaga or CJ Spiller as need players. It would be justifiable if Bradford and Okung and Suh were gone, although the BPA principle would likely suggest that the best players are on defense.
The Goat
02-18-2010, 01:10 AM
Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.
But honestly I don't see Bradford as bringing much more to the table than Clausen. Bradford has pocket presence and decent accuracy, but his weak arm will hold him back in this league. I don't understand how people are comparing him to Brees and Rivers. Please...! Both of those guys can throw a 25 yard bullet and air it out for 60 yards. Video of Bradford shows even his short passes w/ a wobbly arc.
...anyway I think either QB at 4 is a terrible decision. I trust Shanny and Allen know this. They wait another year to draft a QB or find a gem somewhere else in the league.
gully
02-18-2010, 03:07 AM
According to warpaths salary figures salary last year was 2.858 Million.
The tender for a 1st and a 3rd pick level is 3.268 Million.
RFAs can be tendered at the amount specified or 110 percent of last years salary ($3.144M) whichever is greater.
So Clayton is merely saying that Campbell will get the only RFA tender possible. The other alternatives would be no tender, allowing him to walk, or the franchise or transition tags, both of which would be much more expensive.
And the skins are free to accept less in the way of draft pick compensation if they choose.