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GTripp0012 02-16-2010, 05:25 PM I'm sorry did you say Bret Favre cost them the game?. His best weapons all fumbled on him 5 turn overs if anything. How can you say you wouldn't Want Favre who led a very good Vikes team to one game to the SB. Honestly the Saints cheated out the Vikes. Bret Favre had a career year and I would take him over Jason Candle any type of years , even Bret-Jet-Favre .
And Jay Cutler is a pro-bowler who is good and is a INT thrower but he is also a TD machine Thrower.
Both are pro-bowlers. One has a SB.
Jason Candle doesnt have neither or was considered one. And your acting like Candle never cost us the game at all?????he makes us look bad against bad teams. Bring in Favre or Cutler I bet our O would do better no way our O can look as bad as this.Given the Favre argument you made above (i.e. it's everyone elses fault), the bolded statement is not only easily defensible, but should be obvious to you.
CultBrennan59 02-16-2010, 05:25 PM He's the reason we won 4 games alright...we were a 1 or 2-win team without him. He put up good stats with no line and was taking a huge beating every week. A team with no offensive line or running game won't make the playoffs with ANYONE at QB. You can't put any (or much) blame about 4-12 on Campbell, he's one of the few players who actually tried in all 16 games and put up respectable numbers despite his team.
The O-line argument is very valid. If you were actually paying attention, you'd see him getting hit before dropping back even 3 steps a lot of the time. He couldn't make good decisions when he didn't have time to do anything. You'd see a center who can't snap the ball into his hands from the shotgun formation. Even when not getting hit, his linemen didn't know how to keep the defenders from batting the ball for INTs and defensive TDs.
Campbell's not our new Jurgenson, Kilmer or Theisman, but he's far better than he gets credit for. He showed a ton of toughness and leadership last season and kept us in most games all by himself. With a 4-12 record, we weren't blown out of games at all. He brought us back on many occasions. We nearly beat the Saints thanks to him and lost thanks to Suisham.
Did you ever look at the flip side and say that Jason made our OL look bad by HOLDING ONTO THE BALL TOO LONG??? Put Brees, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger behind our OL and I gurantee you we win more games. It's the QB thats the problem, then the OL. JC has no pocket awareness what so ever. Quit backing him up, he sucks, get over it, end of arguement.
GTripp0012 02-16-2010, 05:27 PM Did you ever look at the flip side and say that Jason made our OL look bad by HOLDING ONTO THE BALL TOO LONG??? Put Brees, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger behind our OL and I gurantee you we win more games. It's the QB thats the problem, then the OL. JC has no pocket awareness what so ever. Quit backing him up, he sucks, get over it, end of arguement.I see what you did there.
Redemption points, however, for spelling 'Roethlisberger' correctly.
redskins202 02-16-2010, 05:29 PM Did you ever look at the flip side and say that Jason made our OL look bad by HOLDING ONTO THE BALL TOO LONG??? Put Brees, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger behind our OL and I gurantee you we win more games. It's the QB thats the problem, then the OL. JC has no pocket awareness what so ever. Quit backing him up, he sucks, get over it, end of arguement.
Thank you. IDK how can any body think Jason Candle is our best option . So every thing has to be an excuse of Jason Candle. I can't stand fans who don't want us to win games.
But true stuff man. Me and you will be good friends for sure here.
SmootSmack 02-16-2010, 05:31 PM You keep calling him Candle it's hard to take any even legitimate critique you have of him seriously.
GTripp0012 02-16-2010, 05:31 PM Thank you. IDK how can any body think Jason Candle is our best option . So every thing has to be an excuse of Jason Candle. I can't stand fans who don't want us to win games.
But true stuff man. Me and you will be good friends for sure here.Aw, that's really sweet. And pathetic. But mostly sweet.
redskins202 02-16-2010, 05:31 PM Nice mature debate with the namecalling.
That stat that "sickens" you is directly attributable to the lack of an O-line. It's the result of him needing to get rid of the ball within 2-3 seconds after the snap. He's shown he CAN throw deep, but no QB can even attempt deep passes with no time or protection. Anyone who blames JC for that stat doesn't know much about football, or clocks.
Thats funny. Todd Collins can make an good argument about that.
See.
Chefs game
See MNF Giants game.
Only reason Candle comes back up from his poor piss reading plays is because he knows his job is on the line. I herd on the LaVar show on JAN 7th that he said he doesnt welcome or approve of us drafting a QB because he feels like hes a starter in this league. He proved that in 08 with the trade thing he wanted, (btw nobody wanted him because he sucked) and now he wont want it right now. If we get a trade for him than holla loya,
redskins202 02-16-2010, 05:33 PM Aw, that's really sweet. And pathetic. But mostly sweet.
Pssst , its pathetic thinking Candle is the guy to solve everything. I would dare some one to answer this question for me.
"When was the last non franchise QB other than Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer ever won a SB since 1990-2010."
Even if you answer one that would be 3 out of how many years ?. For the last 20 years a franchise QB won a SB.Point fact and proven.
celts32 02-16-2010, 05:37 PM Is "Candle" some sort of joke or just bad spelling?
Ruhskins 02-16-2010, 05:38 PM I'm sorry did you say Bret Favre cost them the game?. His best weapons all fumbled on him 5 turn overs if anything. How can you say you wouldn't Want Favre who led a very good Vikes team to one game to the SB. Honestly the Saints cheated out the Vikes. Bret Favre had a career year and I would take him over Jason Candle any type of years , even Bret-Jet-Favre .
And Jay Cutler is a pro-bowler who is good and is a INT thrower but he is also a TD machine Thrower.
Both are pro-bowlers. One has a SB.
Jason Candle doesnt have neither or was considered one. And your acting like Candle never cost us the game at all?????he makes us look bad against bad teams. Bring in Favre or Cutler I bet our O would do better no way our O can look as bad as this.
Look dude, the whole JC debate has been beaten to death. And like Matty said, it is not worth getting into it. My whole debate with people is, don't think that QB is the only thing that made this a 4-12 team. You're like 6-months behind in your criticism of Campbell.
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