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redskins202 02-17-2010, 03:15 PM How does a qb show confidence when he is regularly battered on three step drops?
This was one bad year for Campbell on the OL. Infact all the other years he had a pretty good OL IDK why your saying he doesn't have confidence?. How could Big Ben and Aaron Rogers get more sacked up than Campbell and say they have no confidence?.
And the OL was bad but please tell me that Campbell didn't make it worst when he couldn't even read a old lady with a cain on a blitz postion coming?.
EDIT: And if he lost confidence it shows what kind of an leader he is. When all the other QB's get sacked or some one like Mcnabb you never hear him or other say " O we'll it was the team and this and that"- Jason Campbell speech.
Mcnabb and others admit they played bad and end up beastin the next week . Campbell doesn't have confidence in him self he's just a back up at best.
redskins202 02-17-2010, 03:18 PM The other team didn't expect a bomb on the first play, were probably playing for a run or short pass. I find no reason to continue trying to discuss football with you.
I can't believe you just said that. I know Campbell lovers make excuses but your saying they didn't expect a long play????. Maybe Moss went down field because it was a route in part of a play. Collins went deep because he saw him down field and knew he had "TIME" to do so , he threw it out nice and quickly.
So how come Campbell couldn't go deep on his first plays?. with a 77% COMP rating you would think every team would expect us to do a 10 yarder but if Campbell went deep they surley wouldnt expect it. I mean........wow I'm shocked.
redskins202 02-17-2010, 03:21 PM word is JC hasn't been allowed to call audibles.. maybe not even protection schemes
he could be a bit more aware though no doubt
He doesn't audible because the coaches feel he can't handle it. He did it nicely in 07 with the Dallas game but I mean that tells you alot in why a coach won't let you do any of that. Portis did say Campbell seemed comfused in the huddle some times and that he isn't a leader.
over the mountain 02-17-2010, 03:21 PM tryfuhl - ive not heard an absolute answer as to whether JC was allowed to call audibles or protection schemes. i thought last year zorn took the protection calls away from rabach and gave them to JC.
im not making a collins is better argument (hes not) but this past season, collins comes in for JC (i think when he injured his ankle). collins lines up, makes a gesture, the TE moves from the right side to the left side, then we false started.
but it clearly showed that qbs in zorns scheme could call protection adjustments, it also showed me something i havent seen all year from a skins qb, our qb making an adjustment based on what he sees when he lines up behind center.
the very next play after the false start? a long ball completed to moss, thrown on time and accurate. collins got popped right after he threw.
uggghhh i feel dirty for even digging up the past JC debates.
tryfuhl 02-17-2010, 03:24 PM I can't believe you just said that. I know Campbell lovers make excuses but your saying they didn't expect a long play????. Maybe Moss went down field because it was a route in part of a play. Collins went deep because he saw him down field and knew he had "TIME" to do so , he threw it out nice and quickly.
So how come Campbell couldn't go deep on his first plays?. with a 77% COMP rating you would think every team would expect us to do a 10 yarder but if Campbell went deep they surley wouldnt expect it. I mean........wow I'm shocked.
You're an idiot, the sooner you get back to ES the better.
This will be the last time that I address you:
1) The pass play was designed to go to Moss, not be a read and pick your best option.. the defense doesn't know before the play that Moss was running a long route, do they? Are you that dumb?
If Campbell went deep on his first play on a designed route every time they'd have plenty of film on it and it would be predictable. Something tells me that you're not even "Madden-level"
later
Dirtbag59 02-17-2010, 03:27 PM I'm so confused. Part of me thinks that if we find the right QB in the draft we have to take him, but if we fix the O-Line we can turn this around quickly, assuming that Kyle Shanahan can coach up Campbell. Honestly right now I'm torn.
CRedskinsRule 02-17-2010, 03:27 PM and now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast
tryfuhl 02-17-2010, 03:28 PM tryfuhl - ive not heard an absolute answer as to whether JC was allowed to call audibles or protection schemes. i thought last year zorn took the protection calls away from rabach and gave them to JC.
im not making a collins is better argument (hes not) but this past season, collins comes in for JC (i think when he injured his ankle). collins lines up, makes a gesture, the TE moves from the right side to the left side, then we false started.
but it clearly showed that qbs in zorns scheme could call protection adjustments, it also showed me something i havent seen all year from a skins qb, our qb making an adjustment based on what he sees when he lines up behind center.
the very next play after the false start? a long ball completed to moss, thrown on time and accurate. collins got popped right after he threw.
uggghhh i feel dirty for even digging up the past JC debates.
That's true, maybe Campbell just didn't call them much.. or maybe they just felt more comfortable letting Collins play as he wished. And yes, Collins looked good on the play, no doubt about that, not taking away anything from him.. or anointing Campbell as our solution, much less savior.
I know Portis said he hasn't seen an audible since Denver and well.. I never see them. That means either both Gibbs and Zorn didn't think that he could handle it or Campbell just neglected to use them. I'd think that if it were the latter Gibbs and Zorn would've corrected that though. Maybe it's just a shared philosophy that their plays should work, who knows?
CRedskinsRule 02-17-2010, 03:33 PM That's true, maybe Campbell just didn't call them much.. or maybe they just felt more comfortable letting Collins play as he wished. And yes, Collins looked good on the play, no doubt about that, not taking away anything from him.. or anointing Campbell as our solution, much less savior.
so much for back to the original topic...
Anybody else remember the furor when Zorn said he would pull Sonny if he changed the play (I would mark that as the official beginning of the end for JZ by the way). If a career back up goes in, what's he got to lose (other than his legs behind last years line). Campbell followed Zorn's plays, for better or for worse.
SmootSmack 02-17-2010, 04:00 PM EDIT: And if he lost confidence it shows what kind of an leader he is. When all the other QB's get sacked or some one like Mcnabb you never hear him or other say " O we'll it was the team and this and that"- Jason Campbell speech.
Mcnabb and others admit they played bad and end up beastin the next week . Campbell doesn't have confidence in him self he's just a back up at best.
You don't listen to McNabb too often do you?
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