Colt Brennan vs Rookie class

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SmootSmack
02-17-2010, 01:55 PM
Chase Daniel is the greatest August QB the Jim Zorn era in Washington ever saw. Ever!!

jdlea
02-17-2010, 01:56 PM
No i didnt mean draft 5 olineman and expect them to start, my bad, but we could grab two tackles (with high potential to start) with the 1st two picks, wit Samuels prolly retiring the 1st rounder would be a shoe-in. Then the 2nd rounder whether it be Ducassee or Brown from USC, they would only hafta outperform Heyer (how hard can that be lol). Seems like alot of rumors we'll be fixin the interior of our line with past shanahan guys in FA. use the remaining 3 picks on BPA in RB, LB, DE/NT or categories. Bring in an Undrafted QB if yu want a project.

I wouldn't have a problem with that. I'm more of a "Trust in Shanahallen" kinda mode right now. I'll be fine with whatever they do, if Shanahan doesn't like a top tackle for his blocking scheme (possible) I'm not going to have a conniption.

At this point, whatever they decide to do, they have patience from me.

tryfuhl
02-17-2010, 01:57 PM
But I thought we never had time on the OL to go deep?.
Jesus you're dense. Campbell had similar throws. Is he the best at throwing the deep ball? No. Did he hold onto the ball too long/not protect it well enough at times? Sure! I can make any QB look mediocre by picking out a handful of plays a year or speaking on their weaknesses.

Let me explain why it worked for Collins; they didn't expect it. You bring in a backup and they expect you to go a bit easier on him with the throws or to hand the ball off. We surprised two teams with a couple of throws, it happens.

Pocket$ $traight
02-17-2010, 02:07 PM
Honestly, the only offensive assumption that I am going to make based off the last two years is that the o-line did not have enough talent.

I don't think anyone can write off Colt from what we have seen. I think they should release Collins because of his age but, at this moment, if you needed someone to come off the bench I think Collins would be the first choice over Colt.

Lotus
02-17-2010, 02:13 PM
Chase Daniel is the greatest August QB the Jim Zorn era in Washington ever saw. Ever!!

It's no wonder that he single-handedly won the Super Bowl.

redskins202
02-17-2010, 02:22 PM
Jesus you're dense. Campbell had similar throws. Is he the best at throwing the deep ball? No. Did he hold onto the ball too long/not protect it well enough at times? Sure! I can make any QB look mediocre by picking out a handful of plays a year or speaking on their weaknesses.

Let me explain why it worked for Collins; they didn't expect it. You bring in a backup and they expect you to go a bit easier on him with the throws or to hand the ball off. We surprised two teams with a couple of throws, it happens.

Wait that doesnt make sense. Basically your saying it worked because the other team felt he was easier????. I mean you could of just have said " it worked because the OL gave him time on those plays and not for Campbell" but you said it worked because they didn't expect it?. No kidding because with Campbell 77% throws for 10 yards and less I wouldn't expect anything big either.

I mean but I agree on the Campbell part. Campbell isn't a WCO type of QB and regardless of his stats he's best year in my view was 07, he atleast connected on the deep balls alot better and shown more confidence .

Lotus
02-17-2010, 02:28 PM
Wait that doesnt make sense. Basically your saying it worked because the other team felt he was easier????. I mean you could of just have said " it worked because the OL gave him time on those plays and not for Campbell" but you said it worked because they didn't expect it?. No kidding because with Campbell 77% throws for 10 yards and less I wouldn't expect anything big either.

I mean but I agree on the Campbell part. Campbell isn't a WCO type of QB and regardless of his stats he's best year in my view was 07, he atleast connected on the deep balls alot better and shown more confidence .

How does a qb show confidence when he is regularly battered on three step drops?

over the mountain
02-17-2010, 02:54 PM
^^^ part of the problem with JC getting regularly battered on 3 step drops is b/c JC doesnt read blitzes or defenses very well. A 5th year qb should be able to detect a LB lined up outside the RE foaming at the mouth with his ears pinned back. does JC call an audible? no. does JC move a TE over to help levi jones? no.

what happens? JC drops back like he doesnt know the blitzer is coming and gets creamed.

the problem with our protecttion was lack of talent, play calling and JC not reading a blitz or making any formation adjustments pre-snap.

a HC in zorn who was over his head, a qb who doesnt succeed in the mental aspects of playing qb and injuries to an already paper thin OL = 4-12 with one of the worst offenses in the league.

theres plenty of blame to go around imo.

tryfuhl
02-17-2010, 03:12 PM
Wait that doesnt make sense. Basically your saying it worked because the other team felt he was easier????. I mean you could of just have said " it worked because the OL gave him time on those plays and not for Campbell" but you said it worked because they didn't expect it?. No kidding because with Campbell 77% throws for 10 yards and less I wouldn't expect anything big either.

I mean but I agree on the Campbell part. Campbell isn't a WCO type of QB and regardless of his stats he's best year in my view was 07, he atleast connected on the deep balls alot better and shown more confidence .
The other team didn't expect a bomb on the first play, were probably playing for a run or short pass. I find no reason to continue trying to discuss football with you.

tryfuhl
02-17-2010, 03:13 PM
^^^ part of the problem with JC getting regularly battered on 3 step drops is b/c JC doesnt read blitzes or defenses very well. A 5th year qb should be able to detect a LB lined up outside the RE foaming at the mouth with his ears pinned back. does JC call an audible? no. does JC move a TE over to help levi jones? no.

what happens? JC drops back like he doesnt know the blitzer is coming and gets creamed.

the problem with our protecttion was lack of talent, play calling and JC not reading a blitz or making any formation adjustments pre-snap.

a HC in zorn who was over his head, a qb who doesnt succeed in the mental aspects of playing qb and injuries to an already paper thin OL = 4-12 with one of the worst offenses in the league.

theres plenty of blame to go around imo.
word is JC hasn't been allowed to call audibles.. maybe not even protection schemes

he could be a bit more aware though no doubt

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