How about moving Rogers to free safety?

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Lotus
02-11-2010, 11:14 AM
I am not a fan of moving any corners. As argued above, we should just get a real safety. But, if someone MUST move, I agree with Tripp that D.Hall is a better choice than 'Los.

dmek25
02-11-2010, 11:16 AM
how about playing a safety at safety? i don't know why people think its that easy to just switch positions?

SmootSmack
02-11-2010, 11:16 AM
how about playing a safety at safety? i don't know why people think its that easy to just switch positions?

Because guys like Woodson, Springs, and Rolle have all done it

Dirtbag59
02-11-2010, 11:20 AM
This is the same type of Madden thinking that gets people in trouble.

Longtimefan
02-11-2010, 11:25 AM
If the decision is made to keep him here I look for the new coaching staff to maximize his ability as a CB. I've never felt the way he was being used best suited his talent level. The knock on him has always been his inability to catch the ball, much of that had to do with his not being able to locate the ball in flight.

Playing the safety position would afford him the opportunity to see more plays developing in front of him, but his natural position is more of a CB than S.

over the mountain
02-11-2010, 11:38 AM
^^^ i think being able to find the ball mid-flight is a very tough skill to learn and separates the elite cb from decent ones. I know d hall has that skill (and he probably tries to locate the ball too much, sometimes even playing off the receiver to try and bait the qb to throw the ball his way) but .. . .

i think los is our best all around cb, and normally i would agree with your comment that a cb probably has trouble picking the ball off b/c he cant locate the ball mid-flight, but ive seen so much of los (we all have) where he sees the ball, it is coming right at him, he watches the ball into his hands then for what ever reason he doesnt catch it.

los could def improve on his ball flight location, but imo alot of his missed picks were b/c of stone hands and vodoo.

im nitpickin

BigHairedAristocrat
02-11-2010, 11:42 AM
what about chris horton? he was a 7th round pick who had a very good rookie season, but regressed and then got injuried in his second season. Considering Doughty and Horton both suck at playing FS, i think if Landry moves to SS then one of them is gone and we pick up another safety who can play both positions decently. if forced to chose, i'd keep Doughty and try to move Horton for a late-round pick (5th-6th rounder).

Longtimefan
02-11-2010, 11:51 AM
^^^ i think being able to find the ball mid-flight is a very tough skill to learn and separates the elite cb from decent ones. I know d hall has that skill (and he probably tries to locate the ball too much, sometimes even playing off the receiver to try and bait the qb to throw the ball his way) but .. . .

i think los is our best all around cb, and normally i would agree with your comment that a cb probably has trouble picking the ball off b/c he cant locate the ball mid-flight, but ive seen so much of los (we all have) where he sees the ball, it is coming right at him, he watches the ball into his hands then for what ever reason he doesnt catch it.

los could def improve on his ball flight location, but imo alot of his missed picks were b/c of stone hands and vodoo.

im nitpickin

I agree......And IMO being able to locate the ball in flight to the receiver has always been Carlos'es greatest weakness, but it's a technique that's coachable and one he can practice until he becomes better at it. For a long time I've felt that to be the one flaw (except his hands) that has kept him from being among the more elite group of CB's.

Chico23231
02-11-2010, 11:52 AM
Here is a take with a nice stat for the people who tend to live and die by with that stuff: "Though he’s had a couple poor games, Rogers has strung together a very nice season this year. He’s been targeted only 61 times this year, which is a distant second only to Nnamdi Asomugha among corners who have played at least 75% of their team’s snaps. Rogers is a pretty good cover corner, but finished the season in the team’s doghouse."

1. Los is a better corner than he gets credit for
2. Poor attitude and his mouth put him in a negative light BUT the Blache treatment affects others as well ie Haynesworth so the same people who give Fat Albert a pass should understand Carlos frustration
3. He is not a big play guy, ok I understand that...hands of stones, he doesnt take chances..but we got Hall across the way who does. Ill take a guy all who does his job: covers receivers and denys them the ball.

We shouldnt move Carlos to FS, just like we should keep Orakpo on the DL, and would should move Landry to SS.

Paintrain
02-11-2010, 12:15 PM
I think I mentioned this back in December, but Tripp arguably had a better idea in moving Hall to FS where he can be the ballhawk that he is.

Still, don't think either has the ability that say Shawn Springs had in moving easily between CB and FS...can we bring Springs back for a year?

I'd be afraid he'll tear a wrist tendon signing his contract..

I'm not a Rogers fan AT ALL but moving him to FS would be an even worse place for him than CB. 2 big things you look for from your FS are solid tackling (and tackling angles) and good hands.. Rogers possesses neither. I hope he's tendered and someone will give us a 2nd for him..

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