pro life ad's in georgia

If you're going to cite statistics why not just go with the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/mmWR/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm)?
By your admission ("granted it's not 90%") you can not compare the death of 90% of Americans and the near extinction of human population to a few million abortions.
If I have to worry about the death of bunch of cells (that's what a fetus is for the first 4 months, I mean it can't think, it can't talk, it's an attachment to a woman's body that can't do anything) I'd be depressed about all the spermicide I've been committing all these years.


TTL, it's not that I think I'm better than everyone else, it's just that I think you people half-ass everything. With you being at the top of the leader-board of course.

Disgusting line of thought and completely untrue. It's a live person, not a potential person or "fetus", it's just a human being who needs to be nurtured. If we follow your line of thinking (and Hitler's), every handicapped and elderly person should also be exterminated because they need help and care to live. This casual disregard for the value of life itself will be the downfall of our society.

That's one factor in many. Obviously if someone comes to me with firstdown's stolen boat and tries to sell it to me I'll choose to let you know your boat has been stolen. My choice is based on my moral compass.
Ok Saden I'm not going to get into the abortion thing because it been done before but using the terms "pro choice" and "moral compass" together to decribe how you picked pro choice was pretty funny.

If you're going to cite statistics why not just go with the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/mmWR/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm)?
By your admission ("granted it's not 90%") you can not compare the death of 90% of Americans and the near extinction of human population to a few million abortions.
If I have to worry about the death of bunch of cells (that's what a fetus is for the first 4 months, I mean it can't think, it can't talk, it's an attachment to a woman's body that can't do anything) I'd be depressed about all the spermicide I've been committing all these years.


TTL, it's not that I think I'm better than everyone else, it's just that I think you people half-ass everything. With you being at the top of the leader-board of course.

1) OK here is CDC's result:
The national legal induced abortion ratio increased from 196 per 1,000 live births in 1973 (the first year that 52 areas reported) to 358 per 1,000 in 1979 and remained nearly stable through 1981 (Figure 1; Table 2). The ratio peaked at 364 per 1,000 in 1984 and since then has demonstrated a generally steady decline. In 2002, the abortion ratio was 246 per 1,000 in 49 reporting areas (the same as in 2001) and 248 for the same 48 reporting areas for which data were available since 1998 (Table 2). So, though it was a pro-life site, their stats were correct.

2) Your statement was that you don't care for the one skank, and a life that is formed and will be born barring an abortion, but the thought of unformed uncreated life a billion years from now makes your heart ache. The dichotomy of your position is simple, and shows you to be heartless to those around you who you value as lesser beings.

3) It is a bunch of cells dependent on the host body, the mom, you are correct, but it is living and growing, your example of spermicide is blatantly a false comparison, spermicide acts before the egg has been fertilized and begun to cluster and divide as cells.

rationalize as you will, but before you start commenting about half ass retorts, realize half-ass is better than an empty response like your last one.

YouTube - Bring Out Your Dead (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwsKg6LwAuY)

1) OK here is CDC's result:
So, though it was a pro-life site, their stats were correct.

2) Your statement was that you don't care for the one skank, and a life that is formed and will be born barring an abortion, but the thought of unformed uncreated life a billion years from now makes your heart ache. The dichotomy of your position is simple, and shows you to be heartless to those around you who you value as lesser beings.

3) It is a bunch of cells dependent on the host body, the mom, you are correct, but it is living and growing, your example of spermicide is blatantly a false comparison, spermicide acts before the egg has been fertilized and begun to cluster and divide as cells.

rationalize as you will, but before you start commenting about half ass retorts, realize half-ass is better than an empty response like your last one.

1. I posted a link to the CDC site so your stats actually have weight...I do read what I post.

2. It's not that I think they are lesser beings, it's that I don't think they are beings for the first few months. Yes, I am more concerned about the existence of human beings in the future than I am of fetuses getting aborted. There's nothing contradictory between the two positions.

3. Growing? Yes, living? No. Their lives are not discernible from that of the host mothers. She dies, they die...she eats, they eat.

It's not rationalizing, it's simple logic devoid of personal beliefs. And for the record, abortion isn't for me and my wife...and I certainly don't support abortion after 5 months unless there's an extraneous circumstance.

Disgusting line of thought and completely untrue. It's a live person, not a potential person or "fetus", it's just a human being who needs to be nurtured. If we follow your line of thinking (and Hitler's), every handicapped and elderly person should also be exterminated because they need help and care to live. This casual disregard for the value of life itself will be the downfall of our society.

Hitler argument eh?


Ding Ding Ding, we have a wiener.

Ok Saden I'm not going to get into the abortion thing because it been done before but using the terms "pro choice" and "moral compass" together to decribe how you picked pro choice was pretty funny.


I am not a Christian, it's not funny to me.

Ok Saden I'm not going to get into the abortion thing because it been done before but using the terms "pro choice" and "moral compass" together to decribe how you picked pro choice was pretty funny.

if his "moral compass" worked, he'd be pro life. i think he and captain jack sparrow use the same compass.

3. Growing? Yes, living? No. Their lives are not discernible from that of the host mothers. She dies, they die...she eats, they eat.

Their lives are discernible as the "lump of cells" may be destroyed with no harm to the mother's physical well being. If a life form begins its life as a parasite, depending on its host initially but growing to independence, isn't it still a life form? It's not like the woman is growing an extra kidney that will be absorbed into her body as a necessary part of it's function.

Even if it is a "lump of cells" at some point, when does it gain its humanity? To my knowledge their is no agreement on this point. Because of this, the abortion of a fetus raises the possibility, however slight, that a murder is being committed.

It's not rationalizing, it's simple logic devoid of personal beliefs.

Logic devoid of personal belief requires uncontroverted facts e.g. "rocks cannot grow or reproduce, therefore rocks are not alive". In the discussion of "when does life begin", please point me to the facts upon which you rely.

I would suggest that, whatever you post as facts will be factual conclusions based on assumptions ultimately derived, in part, from opinion. Life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_life)