Slingin Sammy 33
02-10-2010, 03:22 PM
Why is it that men, who have the most to say about abortion it seems, have so much to say about what a woman should do with her own body?It all boils down to what one believes, is the fetus just a lump of cells, not any different than a gall bladder, liver or finger, or is it a human life at conception. Those that believe it's a human life at conception believe it's no longer just the woman's body. They believe the woman has no right to murder the unborn child any more than she would have to murder a one day old child.
And there are many, many women on the pro-life side that hold the belief of life beginning at conception.
Very complex, very emotional issue. One that I'm sure will not be resolved to one side or the other's satisfaction in our lifetimes.
saden1
02-10-2010, 03:26 PM
What's misleading about the add?
How about the notion of Tebow being a "miracle baby?" If you cut through facad you realize all the ad is saying is "don't do abortion, you might hit the jackpot like me and birth a baller." Of course, what it doesn't tell you is that the chance of your baby being a baller is statistically improbable and that there's a better chance that he might become a perennial criminal.
Slingin Sammy 33
02-10-2010, 03:28 PM
How about the notion of Tebow being a "miracle baby?" If you cut through facad you realize all the ad is saying is "don't do abortion, you might hit the jackpot like me and birth a baller." Of course, what it doesn't tell you is that the chance of your baby being a baller is statistically improbable and that there's a better chance that he might become a perennial criminal.Are we talking NCAA (yes) or NFL (highly doubtful) baller? :)
saden1
02-10-2010, 03:50 PM
Are we talking NCAA (yes) or NFL (highly doubtful) baller? :)
Any NCAA player able to make it to the NFL. How hard can you be ballin' if you can't make it to the next level? I am afraid there's no such thing as second place baller.
Slingin Sammy 33
02-10-2010, 03:59 PM
Any NCAA player able to make it to the NFL. How hard can you be ballin' if you can't make it to the next level? I am afraid there's no such thing as second place baller.True. One is certainly ballin' if he's gonna get paid 7 figures (I'm just hoping it isn't with a check signed by Snyder).
firstdown
02-10-2010, 04:02 PM
How about the notion of Tebow being a "miracle baby?" If you cut through facad you realize all the ad is saying is "don't do abortion, you might hit the jackpot like me and birth a baller." Of course, what it doesn't tell you is that the chance of your baby being a baller is statistically improbable and that there's a better chance that he might become a perennial criminal.
Have you ever thought that "miracle baby" is probably talking about her severe complications that arose durn pregnancy. So do you support abortion because the chances of that fetus becomes a baller are small and you think we are wiping out more potential criminals?
budw38
02-10-2010, 04:08 PM
Have you ever thought that "miracle baby" is probably talking about her severe complications that arose durn pregnancy. So do you support abortion because the chances of that fetus becomes a baller are small and you think we are wiping out more potential criminals?
Nice First . Maybe the Feds will " fix " everyone with a criminal record as to reduce future crime . And maybe free Gatorade and vitamins for athletes so we will ensure healthier and longer lasting athletes .
Lotus
02-10-2010, 04:21 PM
Are you for real? Your saying people will now care less about endangered animals because of this add. OK!
Yes, I am for real. Mis-using the phrase "endangered species" by putting it in a context in which it does not belong trivializes the concept. This is pretty straightforward.
Those billboards are high in scare factor, low in legitimate information.
firstdown
02-10-2010, 04:40 PM
Yes, I am for real. Mis-using the phrase "endangered species" by putting it in a context in which it does not belong trivializes the concept. This is pretty straightforward.
Those billboards are high in scare factor, low in legitimate information.
I guess the polar bears better go hide after these things go up.
saden1
02-10-2010, 05:49 PM
Have you ever thought that "miracle baby" is probably talking about her severe complications that arose durn pregnancy. So do you support abortion because the chances of that fetus becomes a baller are small and you think we are wiping out more potential criminals?
Yes I did, Tebow is a baby who survived complications and went on to do great things...it's a miracle! How miraculous would he be if he was a nobody? How miraculous are all those babies that didn't make it through complications? The reason the whole complications and miracles thing is told is to appeal to us at an emotional level and convince us that abortion is the wrong choice not just in this instance but in all instances...hence "celebrate life, celebrate family."
My decision to support abortion is solely based on affording people the right to choose...whatever that choice may be. Ms. Tebow made the right choice, good for her. Focus on the Family, group behind the ad, doesn't want people to have a choice (http://www.focusonthefamily.com/about_us/guiding-principles.aspx)...they can go fuck themselves.
So do you support abortion because the chances of that fetus becomes a baller are small and you think we are wiping out more potential criminals?
That's eugenics, I don't support eugenics.