I'm Not Sticking By Gibbs

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redskinsskickazz
11-01-2004, 05:06 PM
In a few years Brunell will be wearing depends and crapping his panties every few hours. If it takes years to turn teams around, isn't it time to get impatient with Brunell and throw Ramsey in the mix?


dont get me wrong im not a brunnell fan and i think theres a good chance that ramsey could spark our offense im just not ready to completely write off brunnell he was once too good. and some quarterbacks play well untill there late thirties or early forties but nobody has a crystal ball to see if brunnell is one of those guys

offiss
11-01-2004, 05:11 PM
dont get me wrong im not a brunnell fan and i think theres a good chance that ramsey could spark our offense im just not ready to completely write off brunnell he was once too good. and some quarterbacks play well untill there late thirties or early forties but nobody has a crystal ball to see if brunnell is one of those guys


You don't need a crystal ball to see that he isn't!

biggirl
11-01-2004, 05:18 PM
I am as frustrated as anyone, but I believe that Gibbs will turn it around...but it's not going to happen overnight. I have always been a Ramsey fan, but he might still be unlearning all the crap he had to learn under the ball coach. I think he will be the QB of the future, and I also think that future will start before the end of the season. I just hope he has lost some of the deer in the headlights look he got under Spurrier. Brunell looks bad...no doubt, but I have faith that Gibbs has a plan, and he will turn it around. Anyone that really expected he would come in and win a Superbowl was looking through rose colored glasses. I never expected more that .500 this season. So far, this is exactly what I expected. I expect Mark will be gone in a game or two. I just hope Ramsey is ready. :frusty:
As for this season, :Flush: watch it go!

LRT
11-02-2004, 06:34 AM
Here's my two cents...

The Redskins have some good talent, but that's been true ever since the Danny first opened his wallet and started mopping up the free agent market. But, talent doesn't make for good teams. "Back in the day" when Gibbs was first here, the Skins were rarely the most talented team in the playoffs, yet did very well because they were consistently the best team in terms of teamwork, cohesion, etc.

Gibbs is trying to build that sense of being a team into a much of free agents who, let's be honest, all came here to make a buck not because they love the burgundy and gold. Now, I think many of us, myself especially, underestimated how difficult this would be. I've never wanted to admit this, but we've been in the same lower realms of the NFL as the Bengals, Cardinals, Lions and Browns these last so many years. I thought Gibbs could come in and instantly turn us around. But, realistically no one could do that.

That said, even with the struggles, we are not far from being a good team. We're playing well on defense and we've shown sporadic flashes on offense. That makes the losing all the more difficult, because we're not being blown out by three or four TDs but are losing by field goals, for the most part.

This situation, I think, makes it natural and easy to look for the key - the one problem that if we can just fix it will make everything turn around. And, since Mark Brunnell has, frankly, played attrociously, it is very easy, and perhaps even very justifiable to focus on the QB position as the one source of trouble.

Personally, if were the Head Coach of the Washington Redskins, Brunnell would have been benched weeks ago. But, my coaching prowess is limited to Madden '04 and I have no idea what is happening in practice. Neither do most of us. Maybe Ramsey is struggling with the Gibbs systems in practice as much as Brunnell is on the field. I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Given the beating he took last year and Spurriers influence, I would have been surprised if Ramsey had been ready to start this season.

Maybe, Gibbs is sticking with Brunnell because he knows that if yanks Brunnell for Ramsey and Ramsey flops, then the same chants that went up for Ramsey may go up even quicker for Hasselbeck. I remember from Gibbs' first tenure the saying that the most popular man in Washington is always the back-up quarterback. So, if we bench Brunnell and then Ramsey isn't ready and he gets benched, what does that do to his confidence and the long-term stability of the team?

In any case, Gibbs can certainly be citicized, but at the end of the day, my view is that (a) he knows more about his players than I do, seeing them practice every day and (b) he knows a lot more about coaching than I've learned from my Madden '04, so, I'm prepared to trust him.

Lastly, I think that this is just a difficult time, as some else has noted, and we need to suffer through it. The best thing for this team may just be a difficult season that DOESN'T lead to in-fight and which DOESN'T end with wholesale personnel and coaching changes.

I offered two cents worth, but I think I gave four. Sorry for going on so long.

MTK
11-02-2004, 08:19 AM
Great post LRT

ZackMills
11-02-2004, 11:04 AM
Great post LRT

I've seen better, but still good. :Smoker:

MTK
11-02-2004, 11:07 AM
I've seen better, but still good. :Smoker:
well one thing's for sure, we won't see better from you

LOL

ZackMills
11-02-2004, 11:09 AM
in 3 years, when the best we do with Gibbs is 6 wins, you will view me as a prophet. :dallas: ...wait a minute, no we dont, they have a coach who gets their players to perform ABOVE what is expected, not below. :smashfrea

MTK
11-02-2004, 11:11 AM
Dallas is 3-4 coming off a 10-6 season, are they really performing above expectations?

LRT
11-02-2004, 11:27 AM
in 3 years, when the best we do with Gibbs is 6 wins, you will view me as a prophet. :dallas: ...wait a minute, no we dont, they have a coach who gets their players to perform ABOVE what is expected, not below. :smashfrea

First, while I would no longer bet on it, I wouldn't be surprised if we got at least 6 wins this season (only 4 more to go!) Second, Gibbs will build on this season. Even if we don't get 6 wins, having Gibbs brings stability and will help this team learn that a losing season doesn't mean that you fly into panic mode and make changes for change sake. This team will grow and bond and will be better next year. And without, I hope, a lot of new faces.

And, finally, who would really want the Tuna for their coach? He's better than Spurrier, but he's certainly no Gibbs...

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