I'm Not Sticking By Gibbs

Correct me if I'm wrong but the subject of this thread says 'I'm not sticking by Gibbs'. So if you're not sticking with him fine, just don't jump back on board when things turn for the better, that's all. If you're not going to stick with him through thick and thin than I don't want to hear how big of a Gibbs fan you are when he wins, that's all.

Have I ever once said fire Gibbs? Nope. Have I ever once said I'm not going to support the 'Skins win or lose? Nope. Have I ever done anything to show I'm not a true Redskins fan? Nope. I have ALWAYS said Gibbs will turn the ship around. Find me one post or a portion of a post where I said Gibbs can't bring us wins. You won't find a post like that.

I have EVERY right to criticize Gibbs' decisions. Just because I'm not "sticking by Gibbs," meaning I'm not going to blindly concur with everything he says or does, doesn't mean I can't support later decisions. If he sticks with Brunell and wins, I'll admit I was wrong and Gibbs was right. I just don't see us winning until Gibbs changes QBs and I guess we'll see who's right and who is wrong. Right now, it's looking like I'm right.

What are we complaining about week in week out...poor clock management, use of our TOs, Brunell is clearly an awful awful QB, defenses know what we are running on offense. IT IS CLEARLY POOR COACHING. we have an amazing defense. what are we taught, DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. The 2002 ravens had an awful offense, and won the SUPER BOWL. we cant win a game. our offense, on paper, is not that bad. this "genius" was a genius 12 years ago. Today, his offense doesn't work, yet he still runs it. he's old, he won't change. he's stubborn. this situation is alot like penn state. we have a great defense, yet we still cant win because of a bad, predictable offense. we have a great, blue chip true freshmen on bench, yet we still game in, game out, play with our terrible senior QB.

I am sure that i am so angry because both teams are very similar and have potential, and both coach's primes have passed, and it just pisses me off.
Did Paterno retire and come back 12 years later? I don't really follow college ball, but I don't think he did. Plus, isn't he 15-20 years older than Gibbs? Gibbs hasn't done it in 12 years, so of course he's rusty, but that doesn't mean he won't get it back. Whatever you do, what would happen if you quit and did something completely different, then went back 12 years later? It would take a while to get back into it. Gibbs has already shown progress in game management and will continue, but truthfully, I don't think he will really be back in top form until next season. This year is for him to get back into the swing...which is why he hired Williams for the D to carry the team this year. We just need to have patience....but that doesn't mean we as fans cannot criticize things we don't agree with (i.e. Brunell).

I am fully supportive of Gibbs.. That means I think he is the right man to set the direction for the team and the level of professionalism that his team has lacked for a long time.

That being said, I don't know what he is waiting for to make a QB change. Maybe once the team is either destined to finish below .500 or is out of logical playoff contention (which is getting strikingly close) he will insert Ramsey to see what he can do. While I don't think Ramsey is 'the answer' and will magically make things happen, he cannot do any worse than Brunell..

For all the people who want to point out Ramsey from the Giants game, let's be factual about the impact that Brunell has had on the team so far. He has accounted for, directly or indirectly (teams scoring immediately after a Brunell turnover) for 41 points scored against the Redskins. 41 points scored against us are a result of his play. No team can be successful with those numbers. None of Ramsey's 3 INT led to a Giants score.

Ramseyfan is on the money with this one, I have said it for a while Brunell is the hold up on offense, I also said exactly what RF posted that Wilpon was saying, defenses are flooding the running lanes because they know Brunell can't get the ball downfield, and even if he hit's a pass here or there he can't sustain a drive, I also agree that Gibb's is having trouble admitting his mistake on brunell, I also think Gibb's is underestimating himself as far as his ability to get this team up to speed, he pretty much has done that exept for Brunell, and so long as he has Brunell in there he will not get the offense running like a well oiled machine, reason? You can't get continuity in the passing game if you can't complete a pass, I don't care how much time you spend playing together, gibb's will eventually make the change, and we will win but we are throwing this season away because of his stubbornness right now, Gibb's has alway's been pretty loyal to his starters but he never would have tolerated this kind of play by a QB in his first go round, especially when he has a QB of Ramsey's caliber waiting in the wing's.

I also like the quote about Brunell not wanting to get hit and his happy feet, sound's and look's like a guy hanging around for a paycheck, not a guy fighting his gut's out, unless he's fighting his gut's out not to get hit! :smashfrea

98 points (those scored by the Brunell led offense) - 42 points (those points scored off of Brunell)= 56 net points, or 8 points per game. WAY TO GO MARK!

this is funny we do this every year listen to ourselves it takes time to build solid teams years not months and were getting better every week the reason the redskins have stunk the last 12 years is we lack patience can you name one team in the history of the nfl that has turned over its coaching staff and most of its roster every year and been a consistent winner we need to just ride out this transition untill the skins get comfortable and to qoute lombardi winning becomes habit instead of losing

98 points (those scored by the Brunell led offense) - 42 points (those points scored off of Brunell)= 56 net points, or 8 points per game. WAY TO GO MARK!

Thanks, you articulated my point better than I had.. He has led us to a net touchdown and two point conversion per game. I highly doubt that Ramsey would do that poorly..

this is funny we do this every year listen to ourselves it takes time to build solid teams years not months and were getting better every week the reason the redskins have stunk the last 12 years is we lack patience can you name one team in the history of the nfl that has turned over its coaching staff and most of its roster every year and been a consistent winner we need to just ride out this transition untill the skins get comfortable and to qoute lombardi winning becomes habit instead of losing

In a few years Brunell will be wearing depends and crapping his panties every few hours. If it takes years to turn teams around, isn't it time to get impatient with Brunell and throw Ramsey in the mix?

this is my take on why i think gibbs is sticking with brunnell i think brunnells skills have faded some since he was younger but i dont think there gone personally i think his biggest problem is an utter lack of confidence and that is something that can return with time in the system i also believe that ramsey has the same problem right now and gibbs believes that brunnell being a veteran is the most likely to get in a groove and start moving this offense i could be wrong but if brunnell stays the starter i think we will see a signifigant improvement the second half of the season (not that he could be much worse) my point is that brunnell was once one of the best passers in the leauge and seven games in a brand new system with an offensive coaching staff that has been out of the leauge for so long is not enough time to say with any certainty that he can no longer play in the nfl.

In a few years Brunell will be wearing depends and crapping his panties every few hours. If it takes years to turn teams around, isn't it time to get impatient with Brunell and throw Ramsey in the mix?


Good point! :lol: