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SmootSmack
02-10-2010, 11:55 AM
The Bills playing a couple of games in Toronto has little to nothing to do with Goodell pushing for international expansion.

over the mountain
02-10-2010, 11:58 AM
he didn't start it but he is moving forward with it, the bills are playing a bunch of their home gmes in canada over the next few years, and he is pushing forward with trying to have atleast two games played outside the us each year, imo that is bs

i thought the bills owner wanted this, he can actually sell tickets and make money in toronto. i thought the bills owner was doing this to get a feel for the bills move to toronto.

as for games outside the US, theres pros and cons imo.

pros are that oversee fans in england and europe get to go to a game. this creates and expands NFL's marketing power and allows them to dip into a new market base. also redskin fans in england to get to see a game.

con is how the travel time and less than nfl-caliber fields effect the conditioning and health of players. while i would prefer the skins to never play a game in europe, it seems every team will have to take their turn flying across the pond.

MTK
02-10-2010, 12:03 PM
he didn't start it but he is moving forward with it, the bills are playing a bunch of their home gmes in canada over the next few years, and he is pushing forward with trying to have atleast two games played outside the us each year, imo that is bs

Still... seems odd to be holding this against him since he's just continuing on with what was started years and years ago, but to each his own I guess.

tryfuhl
02-10-2010, 04:50 PM
Honestly I don't get the haters when it comes to Goodell. He's made a pretty smooth transition over from Tagliabue and done some good things in his short time as commish. I like that he's taken a firm stance with a lot of issues including player conduct.
Wanting to take more games overseas, maybe a team, the SUPER FREAKING BOWL, etc.. too much for me. The fines for criticizing officiating, etc

Tag was more about the players and the game itself than the image to the outsiders

mlmdub130
02-10-2010, 10:25 PM
C'mon folks, you don't think there's any serious head trauma going on along the lines during games? Guys crash into each other full force on the snap, helmets collide, guys are falling to the ground getting kicked, kneed, and elbowed.

As I said earlier, research is coming out that says all the small collisions during games add up and are perhaps more damaging over time than the big ones. At least with the big ones guys are held out to heal. With the smaller collisions guys don't even know they could be hurt and keep playing.

to me it's insane to even thihnk about having this discussion with my loved ones, but it's very couragous imo

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mlmdub130
02-10-2010, 10:32 PM
i thought the bills owner wanted this, he can actually sell tickets and make money in toronto. i thought the bills owner was doing this to get a feel for the bills move to toronto.

as for games outside the US, theres pros and cons imo.

pros are that oversee fans in england and europe get to go to a game. this creates and expands NFL's marketing power and allows them to dip into a new market base. also redskin fans in england to get to see a game.

con is how the travel time and less than nfl-caliber fields effect the conditioning and health of players. while i would prefer the skins to never play a game in europe, it seems every team will have to take their turn flying across the pond.

the owner might want to move there but ask all the die hard bills season ticket holders how they feel about it

as a season ticket holder and a die hard fan the last thing i wanna see is one of my 8 home games be played some where else, i'm just not a fan of the nfl expanding anything overseas. if a fan in germany wants to see a skins game welll thats fine planes fly both ways

SmootSmack
02-10-2010, 11:17 PM
Sense a bit of xenophobia here.

International expansion was huge for Tags. He pushed for games in Mexico during the regular season, kept NFL Europe going even though it was losing money, pushed for games in China and Japan (which I can't recall if that happened)

GMScud
02-10-2010, 11:28 PM
Sense a bit of xenophobia here.

International expansion was huge for Tags. He pushed for games in Mexico during the regular season, kept NFL Europe going even though it was losing money, pushed for games in China and Japan (which I can't recall if that happened)

You don't remember the Spurrier regime going to Japan and decimating the 49ers in the preseason? Man that was awesome. Then came the regular season....

Dirtbag59
02-10-2010, 11:52 PM
Sense a bit of xenophobia here.

International expansion was huge for Tags. He pushed for games in Mexico during the regular season, kept NFL Europe going even though it was losing money, pushed for games in China and Japan (which I can't recall if that happened)

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SmootSmack
02-11-2010, 08:24 AM
You don't remember the Spurrier regime going to Japan and decimating the 49ers in the preseason? Man that was awesome. Then came the regular season....

LOL. Yeah...though I was thinking more about regular season

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