GMScud
02-07-2010, 01:38 PM
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/04/AR2010020403698.html)
I thought this was a very good read. It's in today's Washington Post, written by a professor of politics at UVA.
TheSmurfs22
02-07-2010, 03:11 PM
Excellent read. Thanks for sharing.
TheSmurfs22
02-07-2010, 03:12 PM
A lot of them have been locked away in academia running their very closed off circles so anyone outside of their "norm" is clinging to their guns and is a right wing wacko.
The Goat
02-07-2010, 03:13 PM
We just can't help ourselves LOL.
Seriously I don't know what liberal means anymore. Pat Buchanan, who I agree w/ on a far range of issues, is a liberal by many of today's conservative standards. What does that mean?
I think the only observation I'm confident in is the difference in attitudes between nearly all the conservatives I know (which includes almost my entire family) and the progressives, liberals etc on the other side. Conservatives almost to a person are far more visceral in their political views. I tend to notice how extremely emotional they get over their bread and butter issues like abortion, homosexuality and religion in society. I can also honestly say outside of grad school I've never met a conservative well informed on the innards of public policy. That's not a sleight...it's just a matter of how people look at the world and you find a hell of a lot of people who don't want to bother w/ the details.
Take the fact our health care system is rated way behind all the other modern nations in overall quality (I believe we're 37th overall) and we spend WAY more on health (over 17% of GDP while most modern countries spend around 12%). Btw England and Canada spend less than 10% of GDP on health!!! Well...I only hear conservatives still saying we have the best medical care in the world and get it a lot cheaper than those single-payer socialized systems. There's just not a lot of attention to detail, or what some might call facts.
But generally yeah I'd agree liberals or whatever come off as assholes most of the time. They all seem insanely frustrated we can't do better and because their opponents are almost always telling the American people we have it great.
Longtimefan
02-07-2010, 04:48 PM
If liberals actually consider themselves to be better, then I guess I'm missing the real meaning of a liberal. The conservatives speak of liberals like they're a disease or the plague of some kind. I've often asked myself what's wrong with being a liberal?
dmek25
02-07-2010, 07:56 PM
i guess the same reasons that Republicans are so radical....
GMScud
02-07-2010, 08:09 PM
i guess the same reasons that Republicans are so radical....
Did you read the article? The thread title is the title of the article. It's actually a really solid read.
Did you read the article? The thread title is the title of the article. It's actually a really solid read.
Maybe he was to busy being condescending and argumentative?
Trample the Elderly
02-07-2010, 10:10 PM
Just for you Goat . . . . since you can't tell the difference between a leftist and a right winger.
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tryfuhl
02-08-2010, 02:19 AM
hahahaha
someone from UVA talking about condescending? that's absolutely great
it goes both ways.. repubs try to bully and dems try to make others look stupid.. it generally works decently each way