The Official Lost: The Final Season Thread (Warning: Possible Spoilers)

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skinsfanthru&thru
03-24-2010, 11:14 AM
Last night's episode was awesome and I needed that because Sawyer's episode was kinda boring. It didn't really have any importance to it other than CW getting to the island. Of course I could think last night's episode was awesome because I think Richard is one of the more interesting characters on the series and it also fleshed out more of the back story between Jacob and the man in black.

Schneed10
03-24-2010, 01:24 PM
Last night's episode finally clearly spelled out the battle that is taking place at the island (and I thought it was a job well done by the actor who plays Richard, whoever he is). But now the interesting part is what role does each remaining character play in the good vs evil struggle.

You have Sawyer in a position to lead devil-Locke to Charles Widmoor, you have Ben who regretted the choices he made seemingly on the cusp of turning towards the good, you have Richard whose choice is clear after last night.

And then of course there's Jack. The line that struck me from last night was when Jacob told Richard on the beach, "I don't want to step in, why should I have to tell people what to do? I want them to know what's right on their own." To me, he was speaking directly to Jack, and once and for all over the final 7 episodes it will be up to Jack to make a decision, take a course of action, and decide where he stands.

Each character's choice will be very interesting.

FRPLG
03-24-2010, 02:19 PM
Last night's episode finally clearly spelled out the battle that is taking place at the island (and I thought it was a job well done by the actor who plays Richard, whoever he is). But now the interesting part is what role does each remaining character play in the good vs evil struggle.

You have Sawyer in a position to lead devil-Locke to Charles Widmoor, you have Ben who regretted the choices he made seemingly on the cusp of turning towards the good, you have Richard whose choice is clear after last night.

And then of course there's Jack. The line that struck me from last night was when Jacob told Richard on the beach, "I don't want to step in, why should I have to tell people what to do? I want them to know what's right on their own." To me, he was speaking directly to Jack, and once and for all over the final 7 episodes it will be up to Jack to make a decision, take a course of action, and decide where he stands.

Each character's choice will be very interesting.

I'm not so sure we even know which side is good and which is evil. The man in black is hell bent on getting off the island at whatever cost for whatever reason. BUT he never lies. He does engage in some cagey manipulation but you pretty much know where he stands. Jacob on the other hand is constantly lying and in full-bore manipulation mode ALL THE TIME. I'm still wondering whether Jacob is really the evil one. Maybe there isn't a real definite answer to that question.

KLHJ2
03-24-2010, 03:20 PM
I'm just going to wait for the whole thing on DVD and watch 2 episodes per day for 54 days until I've seen the whole thing.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-25-2010, 10:02 AM
It seems like im in the minority, but i was completely and utterly disappointed with Ab Aeterno. My disappointment had nothing to do with the excellent direction, cinematography, and acting in the episode. Nestor, Mark, and Titus were all superb. However, I take issue with the extremely ridiculous and cheesy explainations the Lost writers have given us to some of the shows mysteries:

-The island is a cork that keeps "evil" out of the world? I would think that after 6 years, the writers could come up with something more interesting and original than that.

-Jacobs alleged motives don't make any sense when viewed in light of his actions. Two examples:

1) He’ll bring people to the island and then just lets smokey kill them off? The ones that surive are given a “clean slate” on life, but they arent told of this – so how would they act any differently than they would have if they’d not come to the Island? If Jacob wants to prove a point to the MIB, why not just observe humanity off the island? Jacob speaks of good and bad, yet he has brought hundreds of people to the island to die just to prove a point to one other person.

2) Based on principle, Jacob won’t interfere with people that come to the island, but he’ll appoint Richard to do the same thing on his behalf? Thats like saying murder is wrong, but i’ll pay a hitman to kill someone for me. it doesnt make any sense and is another example of lazy writing.

- And worst of all – What happens if the man in black leaves the island? Everyone goes to hell. REALLY? i don't even know where to begin on that one.

I certainly hope neither Jacob or the MIB weren’t being truthful in this weeks episode and that both of them were just using Richards Catholic belief system to manipulate him. Thats my one hope for the show at this point. Possible evidence that Jacob’s a big fat liar – it would appear the sideways timeline is one where the island is sunk – the illustrative cork has been popped – and it doesn’t seem like the world is any more evil than the original timeline we’ve seen on the show. So maybe the “Man in Locke” was being truthful when he told Sawyer in the cave that the island didn’t need protecting and it’s “just a d@mned island.” Maybe Jacob is just some crazy lunatic that has superpowers.

If the writers of show really expect us to beleive and be satisfied with the explainations they gave us in Ab Aeterno, then Lost has officially nuked the fridge/jumped the shark/whatever you want to call it. just like BSG, the writers may be getting lazy as the show ends.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-25-2010, 01:16 PM
my main gripe with the episode, but articulated much better, is mirrored here:

Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: “Ab Aeterno”-Cadabra! And the Island Is…A Cork?? DocArzt's LOST Blog (http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-in-myth/marc-oromaner%e2%80%99s-lost-in-myth-%e2%80%9cab-aeterno%e2%80%9d-cadabra-and-the-island-is%e2%80%a6a-cork/)

While cynical viewers have assumed for some time that the creators of Lost were going to pull a solution out of their collective ass, not even the most pessimistic among them ever mentioned that they’d be pulling out a cork. While I still have faith that there is still something more interesting going on, “Ab Aeterno” gave me a bit to be concerned about. Sure, the story itself was intriguing and many answers were revealed. But those answers were less than spectacular. And given that all those answers were dreamed up in the early seasons it got me thinking, what if all the answers to this brilliant show are just really dull?

What if the ghosts seen on the island are actually, well, ghosts—or an impersonation by the “black smoke thingie”? What if the whispers are just the voices of those ghosts? What if that black smoke thingie is just some sort of evil entity trapped on the island? What if the numbers are just random numbers assigned by a god-like being named Jacob to find his replacement? What if Richard Alpert hasn’t aged simply because he asked for it and Jacob touched him? What if the Black Rock got to the middle of the island because Jacob caused a giant storm wave to bring it there? What if doing this caused the four-toed statue to topple? And what if the island really is nothing more than a metaphorical cork in a bottle to contain the black smoke thingie? In other words, what if the answers to Lost all turn out to be the stuff of Deus Ex Machina?



Even the worst season of Lost trumps anything else out there on network TV. however, after the truly ingenious season's 4 and 5 of the show, i've come to expect more of the show. Hopefully, the writer of the article is right, and there is more to it. his theory is pretty sweet. the article is definitely worth a read.

D'BOYZ
03-25-2010, 01:29 PM
The last episode has been the only I've liked from this last season after the huge end of last season I expected more of this one... I hated the stupid beginning with the people in the temple the (other/Others) that somehow nobody had seen before there was no need to introduce new people into the story and to kill them after 4 episodes what was the real point to that.

This last episode was great and long overdue the story about Richard we all wanted to see it ... the only thing I didn't like about the episode it's how the writes tried to tie things up in the story that had no sense what soever... In the end of 2 season ago when we first see Jacob sitting at the beach with the dark smoke we see the ship where Richard comes but it's day and clear sky and now the writers changed it to a perfect storm.

Not only that they crash the ship into the 100 feet statue to explain how it ended being a foot how big the freaking wave had to be for the ship to hit it straight in the face and what type of wood that ship was made that could destroy a statue of solid rock???? also after the ship hit the statue somehow it ends up in the middle of the Jungle??????

Hate when writers try to sell you salt as sugar and expect u to eat it with a smile.

Schneed10
03-25-2010, 01:51 PM
my main gripe with the episode, but articulated much better, is mirrored here:

Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: “Ab Aeterno”-Cadabra! And the Island Is…A Cork?? DocArzt's LOST Blog (http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-in-myth/marc-oromaner%e2%80%99s-lost-in-myth-%e2%80%9cab-aeterno%e2%80%9d-cadabra-and-the-island-is%e2%80%a6a-cork/)



Even the worst season of Lost trumps anything else out there on network TV. however, after the truly ingenious season's 4 and 5 of the show, i've come to expect more of the show. Hopefully, the writer of the article is right, and there is more to it. his theory is pretty sweet. the article is definitely worth a read.

I think you might just be a little too into Lost.

Schneed10
03-25-2010, 01:53 PM
It's kind of lame to overanalyze everything the show has ever done because for a while they were writing the story without an end date in mind. Once an end date was set the writers got the chance to really formulate a solid story. But you can't expect every loose end to make sense because for a while the writers didn't have solid direction from the network.

Just enjoy the story for what it is and don't knitpick.

saden1
03-25-2010, 02:51 PM
I think you might just be a little too into Lost.


Reminds me of an episode in Scrubs.

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