53Fan
02-02-2010, 03:30 PM
Suicide is the ultimate manifestation of a "disease" known as depression. If you have never had to deal with a family member with depression, or dealt with it yourself, you have no idea what a grip that disease can have on a human mind. It is a mental illness on par with schizophrenia.
For the folks that do carry through with suicide, generally their illness makes them truly believe that ending their life will benefit others. They do not see that it will harm others, rather they see their continuing to live as harming others. Warped as it is, that is their perception.
It is easy to get angry with those with depression and to call their act self serving, since outwardly this disease seems so self-imposing, but you should not underestimate how sick these people really are and how helpless they are to control the problem. They need help, not anger.
Really good post.
firstdown
02-02-2010, 04:27 PM
A friend of my parents daughter blew her brains out about 15 years ago and the family never saw her again because of the trama to her head and face. About 10 yrs latter the mother was training for something and learning about head trama when the teachers used pictures of head trama. One of the pictures used was of her daughter and she freaked out but is now doing OK.
Longtimefan
02-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Both sad and unforgivable. My prayers be with the Novacek family and friends. RIP
Nomad
02-02-2010, 05:27 PM
better for her to kill herself, than do what Chris Benoit did, and off him and his whole family, actually it's better for her to end her own life, than end, everyone else, and including her's......
...........bad...........
CRedskinsRule
02-02-2010, 06:13 PM
Suicide is the ultimate manifestation of a "disease" known as depression. If you have never had to deal with a family member with depression, or dealt with it yourself, you have no idea what a grip that disease can have on a human mind. It is a mental illness on par with schizophrenia.
For the folks that do carry through with suicide, generally their illness makes them truly believe that ending their life will benefit others. They do not see that it will harm others, rather they see their continuing to live as harming others. Warped as it is, that is their perception.
It is easy to get angry with those with depression and to call their act self serving, since outwardly this disease seems so self-imposing, but you should not underestimate how sick these people really are and how helpless they are to control the problem. They need help, not anger.
This is an excellent post. People who see it as a selfish act are observing the reality after the fact, but I don't think many people who haven't been to that depth can understand the true amount of rationalizing that takes place leading up to a depressed person's suicide.
RIP
djnemo65
02-02-2010, 06:18 PM
Mc2guy, thanks for providing some needed perspective to this thread. Very uncomfortable to watch people line up to judge Ms. Novacek without, I presume, any knowledge of her mental health history.
SFREDSKIN
02-02-2010, 07:06 PM
Totally correct! It is the easy way out and everyone else is left with your mess to clean up.
My uncle committed suicide and I saw his four daughters and wife just crumble. He destroyed 6 lives with that one selfish act.
Interesting film to watch about suicide.
YouTube - The Bridge - Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwl-Pa_QT0M)
Hopefully that will end soon.
KCBS - Suicide Net Chosen to Prevent Deaths on Golden Gate Bridge (http://www.kcbs.com/pages/6182069.php?)
htownskinfan
02-02-2010, 07:42 PM
Hopefully that will end soon.
KCBS - Suicide Net Chosen to Prevent Deaths on Golden Gate Bridge (http://www.kcbs.com/pages/6182069.php?)
well it depends how far the net is from the water,what if they land in the net then jump from the net?
Warpath
02-02-2010, 08:16 PM
certainly awful. I do not know suicide first hand but I do know depression.
To change the subject slightly has anyone seen the movie the bridge? I remember seeing a documentary about it or something to that nature maybe on 20/20 or dateline last year. I have not seen the movie but reading the responses reminded me about this movie and I will be watching it soon through netflix. Just curious if any of you have seen it?