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MTK
10-31-2004, 08:32 PM
But I'm standing by Gibbs.

I think it's pretty safe to say the playoffs are a long shot at this point. 8-8 would be a nice finish and hey, isn't that what many of us expected back in the summer?

We're 7 games into Gibbs' second run. I know people are just overreacting out of frustration but people are saying he needs to be fired, the game has passed him by, etc. I admit things aren't pretty out there, but I'm telling ya he's going to get things turned around. Maybe not this year to everyone's liking but as frustrating as it is, we have to keep an eye on the long term.

I remember hearing the same things about Vermeil and his 'older' coaching staff when he came back. The game had passed him by, he couldn't relate to today's players, etc. He came back to the game after 14 years away and the Rams went 5-11 in his first season and 4-12 in his second. Year 3 they were 13-3 and Super Bowl Champs.

He had very similar results in Kansas City. The Chiefs went 6-10 in his first season, 8-8 the 2nd and 13-3 in his 3rd season. The message is it takes time to install and establish your system and philosophies, and to acquire and develop the players you need to be successful.

And then there's Gibbs himself. Yes he appears to be rusty in game and clock management. The game has changed since he left, but he will adapt and he will get things figured out with time.

I know things suck right now, but we're on the right track with Gibbs. He will get this figured out, we just have to remain patient and realize Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither are NFL Champions.

monk81
10-31-2004, 08:34 PM
I concur Matty. He doesn't have all the pieces he needs to run his offense. It's going to take another draft before the Redskins even start to turn it around. Williams has done a fantastic job on the defense and wasn't it Gibbs that enticed Williams to come to the Redskins. I ain't giving up on Joe, I'm giving him some more time to work his magic. Also especially this week, we brought in 2 new offensive lineman, changed the TE. It's going to take time to get them used to the time.......PATIENCE folks PATIENCE

Gmanc711
10-31-2004, 08:38 PM
I dont think anyone is giving up on Joe, I certainly am not. I'm just growing overally frustrated with the Quarterback situation, and Gibbs is the one that controls it. I mean we are 2-5 now and clearly Brunell is playing horribly. If we are focused on laying the groundwork and establishing a team, why did we even trade for Brunell in the first place?

Its seems to me that if we didnt wnat to use Ramsey, we should have traded him when we had the chance. I dont know.... I'm so confused as to whats going on at this point. We have so many weapons, and Brunell $&*($#(@ I dont even know.

illdefined
10-31-2004, 08:38 PM
all these guys who wanna fire Gibbs (what a thought!), name ONE coach we were thinking after Spurrier that would have done a better job.

celts32
10-31-2004, 08:43 PM
I would never ever ever ever ever ever give up on Joe Gibbs...

VTSkins897
10-31-2004, 08:45 PM
yeah i talked crap but you're right... at the same time i don't feel bad saying things about him... that's part of the game and he knows it. i'll still always stand by the skins, no matter who's the coach.

d151b
10-31-2004, 08:47 PM
firing gibbs is just ludicrous. but,,,,,,, BUT, how can he still stand by brunell at this point????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????

how? all of you brunell L and A's can go piss up a rope...... every single show i watched and article i read was basically said the same thing that most of us have been saying. he blows. firing 10 yards over the head of wide open receivers.... missing cooley, wide open in the end zone.... on and on and on

Paintrain
10-31-2004, 08:53 PM
I am 100% percent behind Gibbs.. Anyone who is calling for his removal just needs to be slapped.. I am frustrated as we all are, but let's take step back off of the ledge. I think that at this point in the season we know that Brunell isn't the answer. We need to play Ramsey to see if he can get the job done. From the things I've read he hasn't looked very good in practice, but let's get him in the game to see what we have and how he runs Gibbs offense. If he sucks, then we need to address that in the offseason. I don't want to go into next year still unsure about the QB position. I think we need to improve our OL, a HUGE disappointment and get key people (Coles, Arrington, Bowen, Hall, Morton, Jansen) healthy before we start talking about getting rid of people or clowing the team up..

skinsguy
10-31-2004, 08:56 PM
I still say if not for a play here and there our season could be above .500, so to say that Gibbs doesn't have it still is dumb.

justrick
10-31-2004, 09:07 PM
First of all we did not have the number one rated defense in Gibb's first tenure. Personally I would bench BRUNELL, but I sell cars for a living. I understand Joe has HOLES ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE. God bless Ray Brown, but at 41 you'd think he could line up in the proper stance. Listen folks ain't nothing passed Gibbs by. No matter how much I want him to throw Ramsey in there my reality is not his truth. When we lose a game because James Thrash forgets to get in a three point stance, after we were trailing by 17 at halftime and should have been by at least 24. I AIN'T MAD AT CHA JOE OR OUR TEAM, BECAUSE HISTORY SAYS THINGS ARE PROGRESSING JUST AS THEY DID THE FIRST TIME AROUND. Fellow fans in DC, understand us fans stuck in Shreveport La are still holding on!!!

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