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Mechanix544 01-29-2010, 05:50 PM Okay, we all like to do it, and opinions on personnel moves are like assholes, everybody's got one (or maybe more.......EWWWW). But I digress, this thread is sort of like a brainstorming session. You be the owner, and make some moves.....Now, dont come in here, say well, Id sign P Manning, Andre Johnson, Polumalu and Bailey back, no. Do a little research, and make a viable response. Its fun to wonder what our team will look like after Shannyhan and his minions do their thing, but at least for this thread, Shanny is number two. You say what goes, and what you think will work to get the Burgandy and Gold back to greatness.
Have Fun!!!!!
Mechanix544 01-29-2010, 06:15 PM Okay, I'll give this a dry run.
First off, the draft. Lets first of all get rid of this #4 pick, and get us some more picks.
Our Number 4 pick plus ARE, for......Arizonas 26th pick, Steve Breaston and a 3rd Rounder.
Maybe a stretch, but some could say that is fair. okay, draft either Bulaga from Iowa or Campbell from USC. Both could step in as first year starters and would be a major upgrade. Lets say Samuels doesn't retire......BAMMO, your tackles are taken care of, Pro Bowler and an athletic rookie to fit nicely into Shannys zone blocking scheme.
Next, with our second round pick, lets go down to TCU, and grab a BIG, but deceivingly FAST guard Newhouse. Im wagering that if he is as fast as scouts think he is, his stock value might rise and he wont be here for us to snag, but here is to hoping. He also steps right in to start. Our third rounder, well, I say you gotta get Pike here. I've been saying this since the middle of the college season. This kid is John Elway plus three inches. Give this guy to Shanny, let him ride the pine and carry the clipboard under JC for just one year, put him in in a couple games here and there this year, and then let him start in 2011, given we even have a season. He could be a Hall of Famer, given the right coach. Shanny had Elway from early on, now he gets Pike from the absolute START!!! I smell a SUPER BOWL sometime in our future!!!!!!!
Defense - Keep our Line intact as it is. a 4-3 with Carter, Golston, hayney, and Osackpo.
LB - SIGN MERRIMAN!!!! With the line we have, he is the type of LB that would benefit from guys like we have up front. His fire will be reignited, plus, I dont think San Diego is going to offer him squat compared to what he was making there previously. In swoops Dan Snyder for the pick off. Offer Merriman a little more than the other bidders, and Solidify our second line of defense, literally. Merriman, Fletcher, McIntosh. You got your LB's.
Secondary - Dunta Robinson from the Texans. Get rid of Rogers. Keep Laron Landry, and then get his brother from the Ravens and you got your secondary.
Give Breaston the number 1 WR slot over Moss, move Moss to numer 2, and thomas slides into the slot.
Portis gets one more season with Shanny to redeem himself and hopefully get back to form with those 5+ ypc averages he had in those seasons in Denver. Hoping for alot, but in the end, I think its doable.
So, how'd I do????
Ruhskins 01-29-2010, 06:34 PM Okay, we all like to do it, and opinions on personnel moves are like assholes, everybody's got one (or maybe more.......EWWWW). But I digress, this thread is sort of like a brainstorming session. You be the owner, and make some moves.....Now, dont come in here, say well, Id sign P Manning, Andre Johnson, Polumalu and Bailey back, no. Do a little research, and make a viable response. Its fun to wonder what our team will look like after Shannyhan and his minions do their thing, but at least for this thread, Shanny is number two. You say what goes, and what you think will work to get the Burgandy and Gold back to greatness.
Have Fun!!!!!
I would add to this to remember the uncapped year rules regarding RFAs. There are a lot of good players out there that are going to be RFAs b/c of the uncapped year rules.
Daseal 01-29-2010, 07:08 PM Free Agency:
Look at the following players. Depending on the cap situation by then some of these players may or may not be available. If the cap is still in place, then only sign modest players to modest salaries. Think Springs/Marcus Washington signings.
WR: Kevin Walter. Knows Alex's system. Good receiver. Should work well in our system if we can pry him away from the Texans.
WR: Brandon Marshall. Could be acquired for a relatively low price, had great success with Shanahan before and may be worth the move. Play hard ball with the Broncos. He's in the dog house.
FB: Peyton Hillis: Also in the dog house and familiar with Shanahan. Get him in the door for a modest price.
OL: Marcus McNeill is worth a look at LT. Not sure if he fits the zone scheme they want to install, but worth a gamble and a look if not.
DT: Vince Wilfolk. This guy can anchor the 3-4 defense and would be necessary to have a player like this to make a transition to the 3-4 defense. Lets us move Haynesworth and Carter to ends for a formidable DL.
LB: Kirk Morrison. The future London Fletcher. Not flashy but does his job and does it damn well. Only 28 and can play with us for years in the middle.
LB: Karlos Dansby could be a good outside LB in the 3-4 or 4-3. We could use one more. Unfortunately, he may be out of our league.
DB: Dunta Robinson. Unhappy in Houston and a UFA regardless of CBA this year. Could be worth it to take a flier on him.
These are the bigger name's I'd pursue. We obviously can't sign all of them. When it comes down to it, I think we need another LB, DB, and an NT if we go to the 3-4. Another WR, RB, or Fullback would be nice as well.
Draft:
Ideally, we'll trade back for more picks, but for the sake of argument I'll assume we have no trade partner.
1st: S - Eric Berry. If he's not available, it could be McClain, Okung, or Williams. I know this is controversial. But I want the best player on the board when we pick. I know we have a great need at OL, but with the 4th pick in the draft you take the player that can most impact your franchise for the next 10 years. Go with best available, and I think Eric Berry is that player. He'll allow Landry to go to his more natural SS spot, and help keeping him from being exposed in coverage against WRs, allow him to play the run, blitz, and generally be near the ball instead of 40 yards off the action. Blache tried to play him like Sean Taylor. He wasn't Sean Taylor. Berry isn't either, but he has range similar to Taylors.
2nd: QB - Pike
4th: Best G available.
5th: Best RB available
7th: Best G available
If we could trade back or acquire more picks. Great, but I don't see that happening.
Offseason:
Work the hell out of these guys. Make sure Campbell knows this team rides on his success as a leader. Make him the unquestioned fall guy behind this. He's either going to lead this offense to glory or he's not. It lives and dies by his dedication and execution. Work them hard in every camp, really hard. Make them earn everything. Most importantly, get training camp out of Ashburn. As much as I love the convenience of being there, make them uncomfortable. Have them sleeping in some crappy dorm at some crappy school eating crappy meals and beating the crap out of each other for a few weeks. Get some fire in them and out of their NoVA mansions. I think we've made some of the players a bit too comfortable. Take them out of the comfort zone.
We need real accountability on this team, Shanahan can bring it. Discipline is paramount to our success.
Final Thoughts:
I'd rather have a team that's built for the future than built for tomorrow. I know there's really no rebuilding in the NFL anymore, but I want us to rebuild. Get younger, get stronger, and build a new team through the Shanahans. This team needs an explosive offense. You win games in the NFL throwing the ball now. Running and defense is, for the most part, obsolete. If you're amazing at both you have a chance, but you better be damn good (see the Jets). Too many rules favor the passing game. So don't blow the future to win today.
Dirtbag59 01-29-2010, 07:26 PM If I'm the owner I'm seeking out a doctor to treat my carpel tunnel brought on by signing numerous checks and spending my days playing racquetball.
Chico23231 01-29-2010, 07:41 PM If I'm the owner I'm seeking out a doctor to treat my carpel tunnel brought on by signing numerous checks and spending my days playing racquetball.
LOL, no shit. well said.
CultBrennan59 01-29-2010, 08:00 PM Well, first off If I'm the owner/Dan Snyder, I'm keeping my mouth shut and letting Shanahan and Bruce Allen doing their thing. So now I'm going to rename your question as "Be the GM/coach"
I'm going to cut Randy Thomas, tell Chris Samuels to save his body and life and retire, cut Philip Daniels, Cornelius griffin, Todd Collins, smoot, tryon, wynn and Rabach
Trade or cut
Moss, randel el, sellers, betts, portis, carter(won't fit in 3-4)
I'm Re-signing
Rocky McIntosh, Hunter Smith, tendering Carlos rogers for a low pick/re-signing him for a small deal, and Levi Jones as depth or a LT to develope what ever RT/LT we get.
In Free Agency I'm going after:
Kris Kuper Guard Bronco's, Chester Pitts Guard Texans, Julius Peppers (3-4 OLB), Dunta Robinson CB texans, Darren Sproles RB Chargers, Larry Foote MLB detroit (has 3-4 LB experience under spanos), Ryan Clark FS Steelers, Casey Hampton NT Steelers (probably will be re-signed or franchised), Kevin Walter WR texans (knows this offense), Brandon Marshall WR (see what we can get for him or if we can trade some of the players above for him--if shanny wants him), Antonio Bryant WR bucs (incase one or two of the other receivers are gone or resigned, plus Bruce Allen knows this guy), Mike Bell RB New Orleans
Draft:
1st pick: I want Okung because this will solve our OL(But we'll probably get Bradford)
2nd pick: Terrance Cody assuming we don't get Hampton
4th pick: Matt Tennant C Boston college (comparisons to Broncos all pro center Tom Nalen)
5th pick: Sydquan thompson CB Cal
7th pick: George Selvie DE/OLB USF
compensatory(assuming we get atleast one): Adam Ultaoski T texas
tootergray34 01-29-2010, 08:12 PM shanahan already said he doesn't want Okung, so I'm warming up to bradford or more so eric berry
Ruhskins 01-29-2010, 08:24 PM shanahan already said he doesn't want Okung, so I'm warming up to bradford or more so eric berry
When did he say that and do you have a link?
53Fan 01-29-2010, 09:43 PM shanahan already said he doesn't want Okung, so I'm warming up to bradford or more so eric berry
To come out and say you don't want a player, killing the chance to trade back with a team who does want that player would be dumb as shit. Please show us where he said that.
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