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Dirtbag59 02-15-2010, 09:18 PM Couldn't have said it better.
The thing with Bradford why everyone likes him is because he has the two traits which just about every football coach in america looks at;
Is he accurate?
and is he a winner?
Definitley, and yes.
and thank you Dirtbag for your evaluations of the two best QB's in this years draft.
No problem. Though I must say I disagree on the second trait. I'd say the ability to read defenses is the second most important trait for a QB to have. Football is the ultimate team game so assigning a win to one player is a little to much for me.
@Ruhskins: If you're reading this you can see what I was talking about with ESPN Insider under Clausens Mental Markup. I sware it's really starting to get to me.
Lol, the Bill fans have an idea of what we're going through.....ok it's kind of different because at least we have a good QB, Buffalo has nothing.
Edwards has coinflip chance?
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Trent Edwards | Bills Top Email
While he didn't appear to be the answer at QB in 2009, Trent Edwards has "at least a 50 percent chance" of being the starter at the outset of the 2010 season, according to Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News. That sound you hear is Bills Nation collectively hurling their laptops at the wall.
Gaughan notes that by improving in the trenches -- likely going with a blue-chip OT at No. 9 overall in the draft -- the team can "achieve respectability." If they go OT (or another non-QB position) at No. 9, the QB they take in a later round will likely be unready to start right out of the gates.
CultBrennan59 02-16-2010, 02:34 PM Right now, I don't even think we will be able to get Bradford. This is the first sign right here Report: Bulger cleans out locker | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/report-bulger-cleans-out-his-locker/)
So now they'll need a QB.
And the team which picks in front of us, the Bucs may trade out of their 3rd overall pick
Dominik says Bucs are ready to trade up, or to trade down | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/dominik-says-bucs-are-ready-to-trade-up-or-to-trade-down/)
now if they were to trade down with the Bills or any other team in need of a QB, then its 50-50 as to which QB they take and the upper hand goes to Bradford.
So now maybe we may not even get Bradford even if we want to...
Dirtbag59 02-16-2010, 02:37 PM Right now, I don't even think we will be able to get Bradford. This is the first sign right here Report: Bulger cleans out locker | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/report-bulger-cleans-out-his-locker/)
So now they'll need a QB.
And the team which picks in front of us, the Bucs may trade out of their 3rd overall pick
Dominik says Bucs are ready to trade up, or to trade down | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/dominik-says-bucs-are-ready-to-trade-up-or-to-trade-down/)
now if they were to trade down with the Bills or any other team in need of a QB, then its 50-50 as to which QB they take and the upper hand goes to Bradford.
So now maybe we may not even get Bradford even if we want to...
Apparently they're quite smitten with Vick right now.
Rams' interest in Vick intensifies?
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Michael Vick | Eagles | Interested: Cardinals?, Bills?, Panthers?, Rams?, Raiders? Top Email
Possible Vick landing spots
Buffalo Bills: The team desperately needs a QB, and there could be a scheme match as well: Bills coach Chan Gailey made a viable NFL starter out of Tyler Thigpen in 2008 running a spread offense, and Vick is a souped-up version of Thigpen.
St. Louis Rams: GM Billy Devaney has a relationship with Vick dating back to the Atlanta Falcons days, and Devaney even visited Vick in prison. Like the Bills, the Rams are in dire straits with their QB situation.
We've been speculating on some possible trade locations for Michael Vick for a while now. Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that Rams assistants were calling in to Philly to ask about Vick and during his lap around Radio Row at the Super Bowl last week, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo seemed genuinely interested in acquiring Vick, per Miklasz. With the word that Marc Bulger might not be long for St. Louis, this has increased speculation that the Rams are heavily in play for No. 7.
Vick had some interesting remarks on the radio recently (as reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution). He indicated that he was "complacent, somewhat lazy" while with the Falcons, and he vowed to work harder for his next team. Buzz on a possible Vick deal puts the price tag as a fourth-rounder, according to multiple sources.
In addition to the Bills and Rams -- considered the two front-runners -- Clifton Brown of the Sporting News opines that the Raiders, Panthers and Cardinals all make sense as trade destinations for No. 7.
Ruhskins 02-16-2010, 02:40 PM Right now, I don't even think we will be able to get Bradford. This is the first sign right here Report: Bulger cleans out locker | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/report-bulger-cleans-out-his-locker/)
So now they'll need a QB.
And the team which picks in front of us, the Bucs may trade out of their 3rd overall pick
Dominik says Bucs are ready to trade up, or to trade down | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/dominik-says-bucs-are-ready-to-trade-up-or-to-trade-down/)
now if they were to trade down with the Bills or any other team in need of a QB, then its 50-50 as to which QB they take and the upper hand goes to Bradford.
So now maybe we may not even get Bradford even if we want to...
You trust PFT wayy too much. That being said, sounds like under these scenarios we would get our pick of the litter when it comes to tackles. Not a horrible situation to be in if you are a Redskins fan.
CultBrennan59 02-18-2010, 12:47 AM Redskins Insider - Kiper's argument for the Redskins drafting Clausen (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/kipers-argument-for-the-redski.html#more)
Mel Kipers reasoning to Jason Reid as to why we should get Clausen and go QB first OL second.
Ruhskins 02-18-2010, 02:00 AM Here's some news about Bradford for all of you that have a boner for him...
Move the Sticks » Breaking News (http://www.movethesticks.com/?p=1309)
GTripp0012 02-18-2010, 08:03 PM Read this and tell me thats not spot on. To me it's scary how accurate this is. From the positives with accuracy on short to intermediate routes to the problems with deep ball accuracy.As a four year college starter, you wouldn't expect them to miss much. That's pretty much the principle that all rookie QB projection systems are built on.
He's a lot quicker in his reads than he was under Saunders. The offense Saunders had him running though was not Jason Campbell. His rate statistics make him look like a completely different player in that offense.
The Zorn-era Campbell is pretty much consistent with his college projection. Of course, Auburn could handle a three man rush, and Ronnie Brown/Carnell Williams weren't exactly no-production prima donas. If nothing else, Zorn certainly didn't scale anything back for him (which I certainly wouldn't say about ThomasKelly).
30gut 02-18-2010, 08:29 PM The Zorn-era Campbell is pretty much consistent with his college projection.
You know what i found impressive about JC's senior year?
He had a 10 yard per attempt not per completion per attempt i'm not a historian but that's pretty sick and he maintained 69% completion.
I know the scouting report said deep ball issues but he must have been money on the deep intermediate routes because you're doing something right when you have 10 YPA and 69% comp.
53Fan 02-18-2010, 08:31 PM Stay The Course: Thursday And Long-Redskins Shouldn't Be Drafting A QB
NFL Team News, Scores, Standings, Schedules, Stats & Transactions (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/02/18/thursday-and-long-redskins-shouldn't-be-drafting-a-qb/)
The Goat 02-19-2010, 02:44 AM Stay The Course: Thursday And Long-Redskins Shouldn't Be Drafting A QB
NFL Team News, Scores, Standings, Schedules, Stats & Transactions (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/02/18/thursday-and-long-redskins-shouldn't-be-drafting-a-qb/)
Good article...nothing new but still pretty convincing. Honestly my best case scenario, the thing I'd like to see, is JC have a Pro-Bowl season in the B & G this year behind a totally revamped line.
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