Bradford/Clausen now split among Mock Drafts

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Son Of Man
01-28-2010, 03:38 PM
Two words...........Colt McCoy (2nd Round).

GTripp0012
01-28-2010, 03:43 PM
Where can you find these numbers? I thought KC Joyner from ESPN did something like that. If I remember right it was a combination of career starts and completion percentage that served as the best indicators of success in the NFL.My projections are different from Joyner's and slightly deviant from the Lewin Career Forecast (see link), but this (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3350135) article is a nice one about the 2008 draft, with the FO peak projection value system, including the neccessary tepidations about Matt Ryan that I shared at the time.

diehardskin2982
01-28-2010, 03:44 PM
What type of QB is Bradford? who do you feel his game compares most to?

GTripp0012
01-28-2010, 03:51 PM
What type of QB is Bradford? who do you feel his game compares most to?Anecdotally, I think he some mix of Eli Manning or Steve McNair on the high end, or Jon Kitna/JP Losman on the low end. All of those guys were primarily pocket passers with quick releases and relative athleticism, but the guys who made it were good decision makers under pressure. The guys who ended up being backups or out of the league were poor decision makers under pressure.

I think we (I?) know a lot more about Clausen's mediocre ability to adjust to adverse conditions, compared to Bradford, who is an unknown from that one aspect.

Lotus
01-28-2010, 04:18 PM
I would love us to look at Russell Okung, Anthony Davis, or Trent Williams. Neither of these QBs to me are worthy of the 4th pick.

Davis was repeatedly suspended in college for discipline issues. I'm not sure that he is our boy.

tootergray34
01-28-2010, 04:31 PM
please get off the colt mccoy fling...todd mcshay has him as a 5th or 5th rounder at best

53Fan
01-28-2010, 04:37 PM
Davis was repeatedly suspended in college for discipline issues. I'm not sure that he is our boy.

Davis has a very high upside, but I was disappointed to hear that he has "lazy" issues.

GTripp0012
01-28-2010, 04:38 PM
please get off the colt mccoy fling...todd mcshay has him as a 5th or 5th rounder at bestExcept that he has him in the second. And he's probably the best quarterback in the draft, with regards to Shanahan's scheme.

It's why I have a tough time believing we will actually go QB with the 4th pick. Shanahan might pass on McCoy, but only if he actually thinks that we're fine at QB. Otherwise, he makes a whole bunch of sense for us in the second round, especially if we can trade down to the middle of the round, and pick up a third round pick.

I think we're way more likely to trade down in the second than in the first anyway.

Dirtbag59
01-28-2010, 05:17 PM
What type of QB is Bradford? who do you feel his game compares most to?

I'm still trying to figure that out. Though I think if Kurt Warner had played at a highly touted program and was projected to be a top 10 pick he would have been Sam Bradford.

I actually have been saying that he could be like Phillip Rivers but I think that was more a reference to the caliber of QB I believed he could become. The fact of the matter is Clausen actually seems pretty similar to Rivers coming out of college. For starters people couldn't really agree where Rivers was going to be selected in the first. SI had him as a mid first round pick going into the draft. Rivers also started his first year.

Both of them also had an odd throwing motion coming out of college, high completion percentages in their final year, and defenses that couldn't support the offense (NC State was 8-5 in Rivers final year).

It'll probably take more time but I'll find a comparison for Bradford, though there might not really be one. Still I have heard people refer to him as a non-fiery version of Peyton Manning.

Monkeydad
01-28-2010, 05:21 PM
What type of QB is Bradford? who do you feel his game compares most to?

Rick Mirer.

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