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Longtimefan 01-25-2010, 10:41 AM While I applaud Favre for all his many accomplishments through the years, I find the idea of a double standard for him and the rest of the team rather disconcerting for the team as a whole. Some payers may resist a standard for Favre so different than the one they're expected to embrace. Favre is the ordained leader of that team but he does not at this stage of his career exhibit leadership pactices.
redsk1 01-25-2010, 10:45 AM I don't think Favre cost them the game. The many fumbles cost them the game. Sure, he made a bad mistake but there were a # of errors that led them to that point. He got beat up pretty bad last night.
If he wants to play, more power to him. The Vikes have got a real good team and could make it back to the Championship next year.
SFREDSKIN 01-25-2010, 10:47 AM While I applaud Favre for all his many accomplishments through the years, I find the idea of a double standard for him and the rest of the team rather disconcerting for the team as a whole. Some payers may resist a standard for Favre so different than the one they're expected to embrace. Favre is the ordained leader of that team but he does not at this stage of his career exhibit leadership pactices.
He should retire for once and for all, he might be a great QB, but he makes boneheaded decisions at critical moments. If he comes back he just might have a three peat in interceptions in the divisional playoffs (GB, Minn., ??)
I hope he comes back, he proved this year he can still play at a very high level.
Longtimefan 01-25-2010, 11:02 AM He should retire for once and for all, he might be a great QB, but he makes boneheaded decisions at critical moments. If he comes back he just might have a three peat in interceptions in the divisional playoffs (GB, Minn., ??)
I agree, without question there have been too many (as you described them) bone-headed plays at critical times and espically in post-season play when your game should be at it's finest.
I don't question his stats, or even if he can still play the game, it's more about his decision making process when he's not playing the game, and the way he sets himself apart from those he's dependent upon for whatever success he's about to acheive.
Beneil (diehard since 87) 01-25-2010, 11:03 AM When i think of Bret Favre, i imagine how i would feel if Darrell Green spent his last two years with the Dallas Cowboys... I usually black out and wake up with something in the room smashed to bits and dried up snot under my nose. I'm sorry, but i just can't get over what he did. I'm all about loyalty and the fans. Right or wrong, the fans are the reason you get paid to play the best game ever made. If he's better than Aaron Rogers, then he should've BEAT Aaron Rogers and reclaimed the starting spot that HE GAVE UP and took the team that stood by him all that time. Art Monk was a Jet too, yeah, but he didn't go to the Cowboys after that! I was giggling my butt off when Suisam missed those fieldgoals in the CowGirl/Vikings playoff game!
Slingin Sammy 33 01-25-2010, 11:08 AM He should retire for once and for all, he might be a great QB, but he makes boneheaded decisions at critical moments. If he comes back he just might have a three peat in interceptions in the divisional playoffs (GB, Minn., ??)Great point.
I was rooting for the Saints to beat the Vikes almost as much as I was rooting for the Vikes to beat Dall-ass. I've had enough Favre. Had the Vikes won, it would've been two weeks of "All-Favre, All-the-time". At this point the guy is a self-serving egomanic. The game isn't all about him, there are 45+ other guys on the roster who are doing everything they can to win as well. He did a number on GB, did a number on the Jets, and who knows how he'll leave the Vikes this off-season....will he return, won't he, will we know before training camp? The guy was fun to watch.....up until about 4 years ago. The act is old, end the damn show.
I also hope at the owners meetings they take out some of the numby-pamby rules to protect the QBs. This whole "driving into the ground" thing is completely subjective except in the most severe cases (the OL shouldn't be letting the DL get clean shots on the QB anyway). The hand to the head thing is another sissy rule that is only an issue in the most severe cases. If a player is taking a blatant cheap shot, hit him with an unsportsmanlike and throw him out. If a DL is working his hind-quarters off to get to the QB and his hand grazes the QB's helmet or he makes a solid tackle on the QB and drives him to the ground (it's proper technique anyway), let it go. Don't turn the NFL into the NBA.
Mc2guy 01-25-2010, 11:50 AM When i think of Bret Favre, i imagine how i would feel if Darrell Green spent his last two years with the Dallas Cowboys... I usually black out and wake up with something in the room smashed to bits and dried up snot under my nose. I'm sorry, but i just can't get over what he did. I'm all about loyalty and the fans. Right or wrong, the fans are the reason you get paid to play the best game ever made. If he's better than Aaron Rogers, then he should've BEAT Aaron Rogers and reclaimed the starting spot that HE GAVE UP and took the team that stood by him all that time. Art Monk was a Jet too, yeah, but he didn't go to the Cowboys after that! I was giggling my butt off when Suisam missed those fieldgoals in the CowGirl/Vikings playoff game!
Dude...where have you been? The Packers told Favre they didn't want him back. He would have come back to the Pack if management hadn't basically told him to take a hike. The also didn't want him playing in the division, which is why he went to the Jets last year.
As for his legacy, say what you want, the Vikings aren't in that game without Favre. His passing numbers this year were sick, and the Vikes went from being a running team to a passing team this year due to a decline of their o-line and running back play. He made a bad throw...one that he wouldn't of had to make if 3 different players other than him hadn't fumbled the ball during the game.
I am no Favre apologist...he makes some stupid throws at times, but you can't tell me he isn't one of the top 5 qb's in the game right now, even at 40...look at his numbers, look at the team wins. And for those claiming he isn't a leader, go talk to his players in Minnesota right now and I'd bet a months salary they'd give a different story.
53Fan 01-25-2010, 11:55 AM I agree that there should be some rule changes which brings me to this question that maybe someone can help me with. I thought after Brady got hit low and was injured a year or two ago, the rules were changed so that it was illegal to hit a QB around the knee area. In fact I've seen it enforced even when it was impossible for the defender to stop. Favre was clearly hit low on the sack he appeared to get hurt on and the defender was clearly not trying to hold up. There was no flag, what am I missing?
SolidSnake84 01-25-2010, 12:11 PM Yeah...i agree with Mc2Guy...Ted Thompson and the Packers basically told Brett to go get F*cked in 2008....so he had to play with the jets because he wanted to play still
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