Portis staying?

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SolidSnake84
01-25-2010, 04:01 PM
Okay, quickly, you realize that one of you anti-portis guys compared a pro bowl, multi-thousand yard season running playmaker who broke team records set by Riggins (who's jersey i have) to HEATH FRIGGIN SHULER!?!?!

You can call him a 'has been' but you can't compare him to a 'never was'!!?!?!

HA HA HA HA HA! You guys crack me up!

The blurb about Heath Schuler was a direct shot to Slingin' Sammy. I suspect he wont be happy.

The only team record Portis broke was the single season rushing yardage. He has yet to surpass the all-time career yards held by Riggo, nor has he surpassed Riggo's single season rushing TD record (24). Seeing as how he cant manage 50 yards a game on most days, i think Riggins' all time record is safe..

What is cracking up is your comments in here. Seriously dude are you just having a laugh at our expense? Its almost like you're trying to set somebody off...

Beneil (diehard since 87)
01-25-2010, 04:25 PM
Ok, setting the record straight, I don't think he is the best back ever. I've already said that I am not pro-ratting players out. No i don't think 1500+ is a given for his production next year provided that he gets a decent o-line, but I DO think it is very possible being that just last year, not 6 years ago, LAST YEAR he got 1,487 yards only having a decent line for half a season. THis year the line fell apart early and not one of our backs did any better running than Portis. Not saying that no running back could, but the ones we have didn't.

Okay, maybe watching the games you've noticed a decrease in speed. Fine. Expected. He's getting older. 28 is 'old' in HB years. Well, some HB's have their best years around 30. Riggins had his best years later on. (example, not comparison) I mean, apart from saying that you think he looks slower, you have nothing else to lean on. Wow, a whole year ago he missed 1500 by 13 yards. I guess you're right. He's a piece of crap and obviously will never break 1500 again. Sorry for being so obtuse.

Beneil (diehard since 87)
01-25-2010, 04:32 PM
I didn't say he broke ALL Riggo's records, sheesh! You're reaching. Portis has 6 seasons of 1200+ yards. Riggins has two. it took 14 years for Riggins to get 11300 yards, Portis is about 1600 shy in like 6 fewer season. I'm just sayin...

As for TD's, getting the last yard was the riggo-drill's job. Dude was a beast! I wear his jersey proudly!

Son Of Man
01-25-2010, 04:43 PM
Lately it seems anytime there's a CP thread, there's always one staunch supporter in the crowd that thinks he can do no wrong. Kinda weird.

It's equally as weird that there is another guy intent on bashing him and wishing the end of his career...even hoping the concussion would put him out for good. That guy = SolidSnake84. Hating CP is his life's passion.

Son Of Man
01-25-2010, 04:47 PM
Joe Jackson Gibbs absolutely LOVED Clinton Portis. Even though CP is an ass at times and somwhat of a jerk...I'll go with Gibbs on this one!

3 more 1200 yard seasons and CP is in Canton.

Longtimefan
01-25-2010, 05:24 PM
Joe Jackson Gibbs absolutely LOVED Clinton Portis. Even though CP is an ass at times and somwhat of a jerk...I'll go with Gibbs on this one!

3 more 1200 yard seasons and CP is in Canton.

It was Joe Jackson Gibbs who contributed to Portis's spiral into individualism. It was on his watch that Portis was permitted to take himself out of games at his own discretion, practice when he wanted too, and refuse to participate in the off-season program or play in pre-season games.

The fact Gibbs often spoke fondly of Portis was a declaration he chose to take advantage of, and took that fondness to mean he could do just about anything he wanted too. It was a declaration of loyalty and commitment that ultimately caused a riff between Al Saunders and Gibbs. Saunders was calling plays expecting Portis to be in the game, Portis for reasons of his own chose to remove himself from games without any of the coaching staff having prior knowledge.

The issues surrounding Portis is not primarily about stats or how many yards he's gained or will gain. It's more about the unnecessary drama he brings to a team and it's locker room, coupled with the need for a seperate set of rules for him that are not commonplace for the entire team. Being one of the highest paid players on the team, he has never lead by example and I doubt seriously any of the younger players on the team are interested in following his blueprint.

joethiesmanfan
01-25-2010, 06:22 PM
It was Joe Jackson Gibbs who contributed to Portis's spiral into individualism. It was on his watch that Portis was permitted to take himself out of games at his own discretion, practice when he wanted too, and refuse to participate in the off-season program or play in pre-season games.

The fact Gibbs often spoke fondly of Portis was a declaration he chose to take advantage of, and took that fondness to mean he could do just about anything he wanted too. It was a declaration of loyalty and commitment that ultimately caused a riff between Al Saunders and Gibbs. Saunders was calling plays expecting Portis to be in the game, Portis for reasons of his own chose to remove himself from games without any of the coaching staff having prior knowledge.

The issues surrounding Portis is not primarily about stats or how many yards he's gained or will gain. It's more about the unnecessary drama he brings to a team and it's locker room, coupled with the need for a seperate set of rules for him that are not commonplace for the entire team. Being one of the highest paid players on the team, he has never lead by example and I doubt seriously any of the younger players on the team are interested in following his blueprint.

Drama didn't come til Zorn. The drama was Zorn told Portis to go into the pass route instead of blocking blitzers. Blitzing was an inigma to Zorn. Gibbs let Portis sit out of practice cause he was using a speed back as a battering ram. Portis cooperated with Gibbs no whining. He had alot of wear and tear no use in having your star RB practicing when he was leaving it all on the field, injuries and all. I defend him and Gibbs til the end. Let him stay if he don't work out he gets cut simple. Putting on costumes is not drama. Zorn was incompetent, Portis had been coached by Shanahan and Gibbs he knows a fake coach aka Zorn when he sees one.

MonkFan4Life
01-25-2010, 06:27 PM
I love hoe we can say that Portis should go but there are so many who love the "Never Has Done Anything For Us" Jason Campbell. But then again, onve he gets another contract which means more money YOU ALL WILL turn on him. WATCH !!!!

Portis was 13 yards shy of 1,500 the year before last behind the same line that the underachiever couldn't produce behind. The guy gets hurt ;ast season and everyone says to let him go, or that we should. That man should and WILL be here next year. Shanny knows what he had in Clinton Portis because he NEVER had another back like Portis after he sent him here. Get off his back, he already has put the team there on the way to the playoffs twice.

NYCskinfan82
01-25-2010, 09:39 PM
I like CP the player, i beleive we have the right people in charge now and if they say he stays or goes i trust their judgement. Sometimes this site reminds me of highschool with its clicks if you say something that they don't agree with they get mad & want to call you crazy, don't get me wrong i'm sure there are some crazy people on this site but i think the one thing we all have in common is we are all DIE HARD REDSKIN FANS. Freedom of speech (typing) should be allowed it is right to discuss a topic but we are to groan for name calling. HTTR

GusFrerotte
01-25-2010, 10:22 PM
CP til this season was one of the guys that never quit on the field. Yeah he got a strand of prime dona syndrome, but can you blame him? This type of situation(meaning with the team as a whole) is what got Barry Sunders to say "screw it" and leave when he could have stuck it out an easily become the best back ever!!!! As long as the docs say he is OK, then we should keep him. We need to concentrate on acquiring linemen, a LB, and a QB in the draft.

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