freddyg12
01-14-2010, 01:27 PM
If I recall correctly Plummer ran a lot of bootlegs, roll-outs, etc. under Shanahan. Stuff to get him on the move and also to probably cut the field in half and simplify his reads.
yeah, I remember Plummer rolling out a lot in that O. He was a hard qb to figure, seemed on the verge of being really good but couldn't put it all together. I think if anything JC is at least more consistent that he was.
redsk1
01-14-2010, 03:12 PM
"Go into his first season" is the key phrase there. It's not the same as "finish his first season"
Yes, we'll have some sort of rookie qb this next year. He'll most likely start on the bench. It will depends on JC's success whether he'll remain on the bench.
Lotus
01-14-2010, 03:20 PM
If I recall correctly Plummer ran a lot of bootlegs, roll-outs, etc. under Shanahan. Stuff to get him on the move and also to probably cut the field in half and simplify his reads.
Staples of the Shanahan offense, regardless of who is under center. I think JC would benefit from being on the move.
artmonkforhallofamein07
01-14-2010, 03:38 PM
ok food for thought. If we are going to go into the draft with the mindset that OL is the need, and then use that thinking to draft a t with the fourth pick and with the 36 pick to draft a c/g (ie a player who can do both ). Why use a late round pick on a QB? Most of the good QBs in the NFL are first round guys. We have JC for next year. I am not sold on any of the QBs in the draft at all as being top notch NFL starting QB material. My point is keep JC this year see how he performs for Shanny. Draft OL and Defense. If we are going to be using more of a 3-4 scheme we need defensive players who would fit that system. Use this draft to rebuild alot of the team and worry about drafting a QB next year. Why rush the QB position, AND why draft a qb late in the draft (much higher fail rate with later round guys and we already have a late rounder on the team)? I just would not waste a pick on a QB this year and I believe that is what we would be doing if we don't use the first pick on one. EVEN then drafting a qb at 4 would be stupid as well because that is not the IMMEDIATE need of this football team.
Redskin Warrior
01-14-2010, 03:44 PM
ok food for thought. If we are going to go into the draft with the mindset that OL is the need, and then use that thinking to draft a t with the fourth pick and with the 36 pick to draft a c/g (ie a player who can do both ). Why use a late round pick on a QB? Most of the good QBs in the NFL are first round guys. We have JC for next year. I am not sold on any of the QBs in the draft at all as being top notch NFL starting QB material. My point is keep JC this year see how he performs for Shanny. Draft OL and Defense. If we are going to be using more of a 3-4 scheme we need defensive players who would fit that system. Use this draft to rebuild alot of the team and worry about drafting a QB next year. Why rush the QB position, AND why draft a qb late in the draft (much higher fail rate with later round guys and we already have a late rounder on the team)? I just would not waste a pick on a QB this year and I believe that is what we would be doing if we don't use the first pick on one. EVEN then drafting a qb at 4 would be stupid as well because that is not the IMMEDIATE need of this football team.
I agree if JC fail draft Locker next year simple that way when Locker gets here he already has protection around him.
artmonkforhallofamein07
01-14-2010, 04:03 PM
I agree if JC fail draft Locker next year simple that way when Locker gets here he already has protection around him.
Exactly. The QB needs protection! You have to start with keeping a guy upright. Not to mention we are going to need Zone Blocking linemen. I really don't feel like we have those kinds of guys on the roster. So the line is going to need to be a big big rebuild this year.
skinsguy
01-14-2010, 04:08 PM
It just makes more sense to me to worry more about building up the offensive line than the QB position this coming season. One question I'd like to know is, how strong will the QB class be in next year's draft?
SmootSmack
01-14-2010, 04:09 PM
Why not draft a QB? It doesn't make much sense to just say let's just wait a year see what happens with Campbell and then get a QB in 2011. If we're in position to get one now, why not? He'll have a year in our system going into 2011.
I know we need linemen, but I think too many of us are thinking well let's just draft anyone that plays the position so we can pile up players in that position and hope a few stick. That doesn't make much sense to me. Plus, all the linemen in the world won't matter if there's no QB.
rbanerjee23
01-14-2010, 04:12 PM
JC with even decent protection is a game winning quarterback...is he the next theismann? no, is he better than 60-70% of the qbs in the league? I think so
Monkeydad
01-14-2010, 04:16 PM
If I recall correctly Plummer ran a lot of bootlegs, roll-outs, etc. under Shanahan. Stuff to get him on the move and also to probably cut the field in half and simplify his reads.
That's what Campbell will be doing, it's Shanahan's system. I think JC will do fine in it. Shanahan likes to play with half a field for his QBs, so when on a rollout to pass, he'll have 2 or 3 options right in front of him just at different yardages with a quick slant, a mid-depth WR and a deep option if open. Going through his targets will be fast and quick, decisions will be made quickly and he'll run for a lot of first downs when his receivers are covered. It seems like a system that is tailor-made for Campbell's abilities and deficiencies.