Giantone
01-14-2010, 05:03 AM
very few of these mistakes were actually of DS or VC's doing. They take blame because they pulled the trigger but they had bad "little birds in their ear" (cough, cough Pepper Rodgers comes to mind).
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Giantone
01-14-2010, 05:07 AM
Snyder is involved, but he's not-to the best of my knowledge-intrusive. He's not much more involved than a lot of other owners in the league. And he's a better owner than he was 10 years ago largely because he's surrounded himself with better people
"intrusive"...........lol,I like that ,so you don't call having players go behind the coachs back to the owner and him listening to them to subvert their authority..."intrusive"?
dmek25
01-14-2010, 07:27 AM
is it bad to have an open door policy? and the subvert their authority, any examples?
Slingin Sammy 33
01-14-2010, 08:54 AM
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http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/28494-redskins-make-list-espns-worst-nfl.html#post528131
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27119-d-c-examiner-zorns-job-jeopardy-9.html#post514988
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/22621-greg-blache-stands-up-cerrato-synder-2.html#post425050
FRPLG
01-14-2010, 09:52 AM
Problem is that his best efforts more often than not hurt the organization...no one is saying he doesn't want to win.. but newsflash, how many owners are there that don't want to win so the whole "he really wants to win" argument is bogus.
Take Lloyd + Archuleta deals for example...how did those help the Redskins in any way? answer, they did not and hurt the organization deeply (still paying salary), no defense of Snyder will be tolerated by me...
More than you'd like to think don't care all that much. They only want to win from a business perspective.
FRPLG
01-14-2010, 10:11 AM
Snyder should definitely shoulder the blame for our struggles. He has made mistakes, lots of them.
But there seems to be this strange hatred of the man. I can't hate the guy for his football mistakes. If I thought he was cheap or didn't bust his ass to try and win then I could hate the guy. Vinny was an ass. He didn't care as much about winning as he did about looking good and staying in power->Hate. DS...not at all. People can say all they want about his football acumen and they'd be right to criticize vigorously but I just don't see all the hate.
Paintrain
01-14-2010, 10:22 AM
I think if Snyder was about 6'2 and was 55 when he bought the team rather than 5'5 and 35 there would be a very different perception of him. From the jump the media portrayed him, fairly in many cases, of being a snot nosed rich 'kid' who acted like a tyrant and threw his financial weight around. The whole 'Lil Danny moniker just stuck with him and makes him an easy target. There's also a HUGE jealousy factor in the media and from the fans because he's acquired so much at such a young age. To ignore or dispel that is completely ridiculous.
Of course the lack of success has been obvious and hasn't made it easy to defend him nor have some of the decisions he's played a role in but so many people who have worked with or for him (Gibbs, Schottenheimer, Buges just to name a couple) that are highly respected do nothing but shower the man with praise.
Bottom line, he's far from the best owner in the NFL but he's committed to exhausting all resources to win, has shown (at least to this point) a willingness to learn from his mistakes and try another path of running the team and is determined to make the Redskins the best franchise in the league.
Seriously. This idiot was hammered and high at the same time. That was a bumbling rant.
Funny to listen to because it was a bumbling rant. And did I hear reference to Dana Stubblefield? Wasn't he a John Kent Cooke guy?
mdt2five
01-14-2010, 11:02 AM
I think I just heard (from the breakroom to my cube) that the Redskins have donated $500K to the Haiti rescue effort. Good move on DS part if so. Would make me feel a little better about the outrageous amounts charged for tickets/concessions,etc..
Funny to listen to because it was a bumbling rant. And did I hear reference to Dana Stubblefield? Wasn't he a John Kent Cooke guy?
ugh I love it when people can't get things like that straight and blame Danny for Stubby