Coaching Staff update


tryfuhl
02-05-2010, 08:51 AM
Exactly. The whole point of getting the organization right, was that decisions were made by the "appropriate" person. I don't think a GM should make the final call on a position coach. I imagine Shanahan talked to BA and got his opinion, and maybe Snyder's to, but it's Shanahan's call to make. No more, "he's a VC guy, or a DS guy, or a whoever guy" if the coach is on the staff, it's Shanahan's responsibility - for good or bad.

Sometimes when you've been a bad relationship for a long time, when you get out, you still don't know what a good relationship even looks like. That is the best explanation I can come up with for a LOT of the fan comments I see and hear.
I agree with that; I wasn't trying to say that Allen should've been making that decision or anything.

SBXVII
02-05-2010, 08:55 AM
Exactly. The whole point of getting the organization right, was that decisions were made by the "appropriate" person. I don't think a GM should make the final call on a position coach. I imagine Shanahan talked to BA and got his opinion, and maybe Snyder's to, but it's Shanahan's call to make. No more, "he's a VC guy, or a DS guy, or a whoever guy" if the coach is on the staff, it's Shanahan's responsibility - for good or bad.

Sometimes when you've been a bad relationship for a long time, when you get out, you still don't know what a good relationship even looks like. That is the best explanation I can come up with for a LOT of the fan comments I see and hear.

LOL, Touche. :)

GridIron26
02-05-2010, 01:30 PM
I totally agree in regards to seeing our young WR's hopefully getting playing time. I'm on the fence with any other WR being brought in, but I could see us finding a better replacement for ARE and that replacement might be Kevin Walter who played a similar roll in Houston. Plus he's worked with Kyle Shanahan and his Assistant. I could see us going in a different direction from Moss. I know that sounds taboo but I could see them swapping Moss out with Bryant or T.O. I don't necessarily want T.O. it's just that these are the few WR's that are FA with out any ties. We would not have to give up any draft picks or trade out any players to get one. I like Moss but I just don't see him as a #1 WR. Will any of the young ones step up to fill that roll as #1?

It's just a feeling but I think the team steps up and finds a bona fide #1 WR so there's no question about who is going to step up, then hope that the new coaching staff can get any of the three young WR's to step up into that roll. Which if that's the case then getting a WR possibly with a one yr deal would be best and if by next yr none step up then you know you either have to give the WR brought in a new contract for the future or draft a #1 WR. I think the other FA's would want more then a 1 yr deal other then T.O. Then there's the reports that Shanny tried to get T.O. and fell short. Do you think he will let it happen again? Especially if T.O. is a FA with no strings attached other then to sign him. I kinda hope I'm wrong, but I could also see him here taking two DB's which would get Moss, Thomas, Kelly or Mitchell open more often.

Again I'd rather see Walter replacing ARE and Bryant replacing Moss with Thomas, Kelly, and Mitchell rounding out the WR corpse. What I'm affraid will happen is we pick up T.O., let ARE go and have Moss, Thomas, Kelly and Mitchell. I don't see us going after Marshall because we would have to give up a high draft pick and Denver is not stupid enough to simply cut him. They will want to get something out of him.

You made good points about no guaranteed #1 receiver on the team.. This definitely will be a problem if nobody steps up as #1, however I'm pretty sure Shanahan(s) are smart enough to make offense great without #1, only due to number of weapons. However, I guess we both agree on the idea of bringing Owens in is not such a good idea.. As for Walter replacing ARE, I would not oppose to this move.. But my question is why do we MUST replace ARE with a free agent? Why we don't try replace ARE with what we have? Although, having Walter sounds pretty good, because he can help us in few positions including the return for special teams..

If we decide to release Moss, then I will advocate that we should try to bring Walter in to replace him.. I don't think we should release him though, because he adds the speed to offense, which we already have with Thomas and Mitchell.. And not to mention, Moss could start playing as punt returner and maybe kick off returner? This would give us another reason not to sign Walter..

The upside of bringing Walter in is he's younger than Moss; we would have an opportunity to not have to worry about replacing Moss for next two or three years..

CRedskinsRule
02-05-2010, 03:49 PM
Yes, Allen was at the senior bowl.



For Redskins, All Eyes On the Senior Bowl (http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/For_Redskins__All_Eyes_On_the_Senior_Bowl_102125.j sp)

You know what's funny, I didn't hear anything about Snyder being there.

This is from Matt Terl's Blog, specifically part of Bruce Allens radio interview the other day:

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But, insisted, the owner's involvement goes only as far as his open wallet. "I don't think he'll ever come on a scouting mission," Allen said, "and he never did go on a scouting mission. He went with his family to a college game, but I don't know if that's a scouting mission. [B]He didn't go to the Senior Bowl this year. He will go to the Combine, along with 25 owners, because there's a league meeting at the Combine."

T.O.Killa
02-07-2010, 03:52 PM
My God, Greg William has put on like 100 pounds.

GridIron26
02-08-2010, 11:52 AM
Redskins Insider - Redskins add assistant special teams coach (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/redskins-add-assistant-special.html)

CRedskinsRule
02-08-2010, 12:01 PM
Redskins Insider - Redskins add assistant special teams coach (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/redskins-add-assistant-special.html)

So this guy was a WR coach in college, transition to ST here. Nice youth, but I am just wondering how many former WR coaches we now have. It seems like they are scattered throughout the organization. (not complaining, just making an observation)

NYCskinfan82
02-08-2010, 03:28 PM
So this guy was a WR coach in college, transition to ST here. Nice youth, but I am just wondering how many former WR coaches we now have. It seems like they are scattered throughout the organization. (not complaining, just making an observation)


We're going to have 1 WR coach for every WR we have on the team.

The Goat
02-08-2010, 09:28 PM
We're going to have 1 WR coach for every WR we have on the team.

Brilliant!!!!!! These guys should fly this season.

SBXVII
02-16-2010, 08:42 PM
I can't believe you all missed this? Oh well for once I'm adding news. :)

Redskins promote head trainer, hire assistant to Shanahan | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/16/redskins-promote-head-trainer-hire-assistant-to-shanahan/)

Redskins promote head trainer, hire assistant to Shanahan
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 16, 2010 3:19 PM ET
The Washington Redskins have continued to re-shape their coaching staff by promoting a trainer and hiring an assistant to head coach Mike Shanahan.

Larry Hess has been promoted to the position of the Redskins' head athletic trainer. He spent the last four seasons as the team's director of rehabilitation and four seasons before that as a physical therapist and assistant athletic trainer.

The Redskins also hired Paul Kelly with the title of Assistant to the Head Coach/Football Administration.

Kelly has previously served as an assistant to head coach Bill Callahan in Oakland, and Jon Gruden in both Oakland and Tampa Bay, with responsibilities including assisting in football operations, overseeing player and staff communications with the head coach and managing the football calendar.

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