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BigHairedAristocrat 01-29-2010, 12:13 PM Buges meant a great deal to this organization over the years. But the last few years his lines were not good and a lack of talent is just part of that equation. His units in recent years appeared to be poorly coached.
It's not certain that Foerster will be better than Buges but it's not certain that he will be worse, either.
nothing is certain, but bugel is without a doubt one of the top offensive line coaches in the history of the game - pretty much anyone other than him would be a downgrade of some sort. i know next to nothing about foerster, except for what i said - he's got some big shoes to fill, his lines have historically been unimpressive, and he most certainly wasnt our first (or second) choice. thats not to say he won't end up being a great coach for us, but my expectations are low.
I don't think Buges forgot how to coach these last few years. I honestly can't look at the talent level we've had coupled with the age/injuries and expect any better results.
SBXVII 01-29-2010, 04:12 PM nothing is certain, but bugel is without a doubt one of the top offensive line coaches in the history of the game - pretty much anyone other than him would be a downgrade of some sort. i know next to nothing about foerster, except for what i said - he's got some big shoes to fill, his lines have historically been unimpressive, and he most certainly wasnt our first (or second) choice. thats not to say he won't end up being a great coach for us, but my expectations are low.
Buges was a great coach but personally I got the feeling that he was teaching an antiquated system. Grimm used the same system but evolved it while with Pittsburg. I didn't think Grimm even used the Zone blocking method but I recently read some where that the HC of the Cardinals talking about their OL and it's zone blocking scheme. Then I remembered people talking about Pittsburg's zone blocking being one of the best.
Anyway Buges was a great coach, the system worked great in the 80's and into the 90's. Also Buges taught "Man to Man" blocking. I'm not saying he had no clue but his forte was man to man. No different then some OL coach's are zone blocking specialists but struggle teaching man to man.
GTripp0012 01-29-2010, 04:24 PM I don't think Buges forgot how to coach these last few years. I honestly can't look at the talent level we've had coupled with the age/injuries and expect any better results.The right guard situation this year was a poorly coached joke though, but that was probably less Bugel being schizophrenic, and more an inconsistency in who was actually making the decisions.
SBXVII 01-30-2010, 10:48 PM As much as I was let down by the McCardell hire I guess we will be alright. The Skins have atleast 3 coach's that used to be WR coach's in the past.
Kyle Shanahan: In 2006, Shanahan was hired by Gary Kubiak to serve as wide receivers coach for the Houston Texans.
Matt Lafleur: LaFleur worked with the wide receivers in his first season in Houston. That year, Andre Johnson led the NFL with 115 catches and 1,575 receiving yards. In addition, fellow receiver Kevin Walter chipped in 60 catches for 899 yards and eight touchdowns.
Jon Embree: Prior to his stint in Kansas City, Embree served as the assistant head coach/tight ends (2004-2005) and assistant head coach/wide receivers (2003) at UCLA.
Sean McVay: During his time in Tampa Bay, McVay worked closely with wide receiver Antonio Bryant, who recorded career-highs in receptions (83), receiving yards (1,248) and touchdowns (7) en route to winning The Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year Award.
The Tuskers finished a perfect 6-0 before losing in the UFL’s inaugural championship game. He worked as the Tuskers quality control/wide receivers coach last season after working with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as an offensive assistant in 2008.
I guess they have enough people to help McCardell with the WR's if needed. Plenty of coach's with expierence actually coaching WR's and with proven track records. So I guess McCardell is the Rookie coach in training.
tryfuhl 01-31-2010, 03:49 PM Source: Washington Redskins to hire Keenan McCardell as wide receivers coach - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4864163)
Looks like McCardell is the man coaching the WR's
his 3rd stint with the skins, now coaching heh
tryfuhl 01-31-2010, 03:58 PM So if we keep coming back to the Warpath, we are his site's whores? Snyder's whores? LOL. :cool-smil
almost 20 years ago we brought him in.. he should def be the bottom bitch by now
tryfuhl 01-31-2010, 04:01 PM you're response to my post makes no sense. any time the team makes any sort of move, people are going to have opinions on it. do you feel we should all "wait and see" without having any feelings about any moves the skins ever make? if she skins signed terrell owens to a 8 year, 100MM contract, should we not have an opinion and just "wait and see" what happens? if the skins traded a 7th round pick to indy for peyton manning, should we surpress our excitement and take a "wait and see approach?"
if we all waited 2 years after everything the skins did to express an opinion, this would be a very very boring place, dont you agree?
well in the case of individual players you pretty much know what you're bringing to the table
some coaches do great with what their FO's give them and then suck it up elsewhere, some do the opposite
like a team that largely ignores the O-Line (whomever that might be).. you're like damn their o-line coach must SUCK! but then you get say a LB coach fed pro-bowlers and you assume he's the best in the league, etc
SmootSmack 02-01-2010, 02:16 PM I've been away so I'm not sure if this was mentioned but Stan Hixon is the new WR coach for the Bills
CRedskinsRule 02-01-2010, 02:21 PM I've been away so I'm not sure if this was mentioned but Stan Hixon is the new WR coach for the Bills
Good for Hixon, not that Buffalo is a hot bed of talent but they do have two high quality WR's.
Interesting that it seems like our coaches are getting calls and jobs, mostly the same or demotions, but still they are getting jobs around the league.
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