Shanahan presser thread

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BigHairedAristocrat
01-08-2010, 11:22 AM
The points you've made probably offers some insight to the latest thread about the prospects of Portis returning. Many look for the team to surely dismiss the likes of Samuels (who'll probably just retire on his own) Daniels, Wynn and even Portis among others whose value has diminished. While we will rid ourselves of some older players, others may be added.

Somehow I have a feeling that in this regard, Bruce Allen is much like his father, embracing the old "The future is now" doctrine, he has demonstrated a fondness for older players so it may be worth watching to see how this process plays with al those having in-put in the player selection process.

I can definitely see Julius Peppers being added... I just can't see Carolina paying to keep him and we know that Snyder, Shanahan, and Allen all love to spend on FA. That is one thing that concerns me, Gibbs "overdid it" when he returned to the NFL spending money like a kid in a candy store. Allen had such a stingy owner in Tampa Bay, he may be inclined to overdo it having an owner like Snyder. If there's no cap, I really don't care though... just worried about the potential implications if/when the cap returns.

Lotus
01-08-2010, 11:31 AM
I need to read up on this american needle thing. PFT had an article on it but i didnt pay any attention to it. Will go back and take a look at it.



I've heard that stated before, but i've never seen a legitimate reason for it. Given that there wont be many (if any) marquee players available in free agency this offseason, i don't think there will be a big spending spree with players getting obscene amounts of money. I certainly don't think there's anyone that will get a contract approaching the deal Haynesworth signed. Thus, there's no reason for the players to really push for a capless CBA. And certainly the owners all want a cap. Sure, a few would prefer no to have a salary floor, but i imagine most of the owners benefit from the system, as they arent "forced" to spend ridiculous amounts of money to remain competitive.

so what am i missing? why is it you feel a cap won't come back?

I do not have a lot of insight into the future of the cap but this is what I understand: The cap system appears done because the owners voluntarily opted out. It was a concession to the owners from the beginning, so I don't see players wanting to keep it alive if the owners do not. Therefore, if the owners lose the American Needle case in terms of labor issues, it would seem that some new system will be erected. If the owners win the American Needle case in terms of labor issues, then the point may be moot because free agency may disappear.

SmootSmack
01-08-2010, 11:44 AM
This would make for good discussion in the American Needle thread

irish
01-08-2010, 11:54 AM
I see that people rightfully think that an uncapped year will mean big contracts for some players and outrageous bidding wars, but I think the most action is going to happen on the low end. In the end I think only a few players will really cash in on this uncapped year while I think the owners will use this to work on reducing contract amounts as a whole. I think a lot more players will lose out rather than gain as a result of this uncapped year.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-08-2010, 12:15 PM
There's an american needle thread? which forum? an hour ago i had never heard of the thing and now its taking over everywhere!

SmootSmack
01-08-2010, 12:19 PM
There's an american needle thread? which forum? an hour ago i had never heard of the thing and now its taking over everywhere!

Do a search, been there all week

Lotus
01-08-2010, 12:19 PM
There's an american needle thread? which forum? an hour ago i had never heard of the thing and now its taking over everywhere!

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/34531-american-needle-vs-nfl.html

I've been waiting for any Warpath lawyers to chime in. This seems like the most important current thread, although the crowd seems to disagree through apathy.

SmootSmack
01-08-2010, 12:21 PM
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/34531-american-needle-vs-nfl.html

I've been waiting for any Warpath lawyers to chime in. This seems like the most important current thread, although the crowd seems to disagree.

My timing for posting it this week may have been a bit off. I've been meaning to post it for months but never got around to it.

GTripp0012
01-08-2010, 12:23 PM
American Needle is a small manufacturer of hats located in Buffalo Grove, Ill.I know a guy from there.

Actually, I know like 300.

CRedskinsRule
01-08-2010, 12:31 PM
Do a search, been there all week

it obviously was harder to find then a needle in a haystack!

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