Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside

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Lotus
01-25-2013, 11:19 AM
Despite what many people say, the cause of global warming really has nothing to do with the issue moving forward. Moving forward, it really doesn't matter where climate change comes from. We should stop talking so much about the cause because it derails discussion that counts.

Regardless of cause, moving forward we don't want to make the warming process worse. Therefore now and into the future we should all strive to live in as environmentally-friendly ways as possible. This is true whether we are human-cause-of-climate-change believers or deniers.

firstdown
01-25-2013, 11:58 AM
Despite what many people say, the cause of global warming really has nothing to do with the issue moving forward. Moving forward, it really doesn't matter where climate change comes from. We should stop talking so much about the cause because it derails discussion that counts.

Regardless of cause, moving forward we don't want to make the warming process worse. Therefore now and into the future we should all strive to live in as environmentally-friendly ways as possible. This is true whether we are human-cause-of-climate-change believers or deniers.

I don't have a problem with going green as we can but lets do it smart. For example E10 gas uses more energy to make and is less efficient. Its all done because of global warming and it does nothing at all to help.

MTK
01-25-2013, 12:13 PM
Despite what many people say, the cause of global warming really has nothing to do with the issue moving forward. Moving forward, it really doesn't matter where climate change comes from. We should stop talking so much about the cause because it derails discussion that counts.

Regardless of cause, moving forward we don't want to make the warming process worse. Therefore now and into the future we should all strive to live in as environmentally-friendly ways as possible. This is true whether we are human-cause-of-climate-change believers or deniers.

Totally agree.

Doesn't matter how we got here, but we have to do something about where we're going.

Burying your head in the sand accomplishes nothing.

FRPLG
01-25-2013, 12:28 PM
The overwhelming majority of climatologists have a consensus.

You should do some research on this point because it is the one point that helped me switch from being a real skeptic to a firm believer. I have since fallen back into the middle area. There are a lot of actual climatologists (not just scientists) who would greatly dispute the notion that there is any consensus about causation. The "consensus" that is so always discussed is really the consensus of scientists who aren't climatologists or only focus on certain parts of the discussion.

My feeling is that reducing greenhouse emissions in smart practical ways is a good idea since a) it won't hurt anything b) let's just do it to be on the safe side and c) there are some potential political benefits. But based on my reading..which I try to do on this a lot...there are a good many climatologists who dispute greatly the notion that humans are appreciably warming the earth and they have just as much science on their side.

JoeRedskin
01-25-2013, 06:24 PM
I used to be very up to date on this stuff but shifting through the dreck finally got to me. At this point, I would agree with FRLPG pretty much 100% in his analysis of "consensus".

It is another one of those issues where the emotions and value systems crowd out science and fiscal analysis when folks start analyzing what the appropriate response is.

firstdown
03-21-2013, 12:45 PM
So its the second day of spring and its snowing its ass off. Good thing they changed it to climate change so they can blame this cold weather on global warm.

BaltimoreSkins
03-21-2013, 03:43 PM
Global warming is a phenomenon due to climate change. Scientists never changed the term global warming into climate change.

Hog1
03-21-2013, 11:18 PM
So its the second day of spring and its snowing its ass off. Good thing they changed it to climate change so they can blame this cold weather on global warm.
I hear you.....rough here to.
FlipFlops on....windows open. Fishing (not the ice kind) on Sat.

Monkeydad
03-22-2013, 10:04 AM
I just saw snow.

firstdown
03-22-2013, 11:30 AM
Global warming is a phenomenon due to climate change. Scientists never changed the term global warming into climate change.

Climate change is on going so that is true but the global warming was the current term that was being used for some time. Now they have switched back to calling it climate change becuase it works better for their agenda. Kind of hard to tell someone that the 2 foot of snow in their yard is a result of global warming.

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