Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside

Great info!

I was worried that chives have those onion root bulbs and could become a weed in future years by coming back if I didn’t want it.

I had no idea that zucchinis may have to be manually pollinated, so ill be looking that up on youtube or asking you for help later on. Do you just do it once they flower?

Ive always liked ornamental plants so fortunately I have some semi decorative older plastic pots that I don’t use that will be perfect for the tomatoes and horse radish, ill probably need a couple more after this weekend though. Another cheap place to get stuff is Big Lots. Awesome store, I got my topsy tervy strawberry basket there for a whopping $2.50.

Almost everything I have is from seed. Horse radish is a root and I bought that from a nursery. My brother has a indoor set up like you and is giving me 4-6 tomato plants this afternoon. And my dad contacted me out of nowhere and asked if I wanted him to mail me some raspberry bushes (about as random as a phone call can get). The only outstanding plants I need to buy are strawberries and grapes if I end up doing those (we’ll see how many raspberry bushes I get).

Still not sure if im keeping any of the pumpkins or watermelons. Many are spoken for at this point.

I have around 50 plants total, not 50 pepper plants. Unfortunately i only have green bell pepper plants.... might have to change that depending on how much space i have.

So are you saying since cuccs love to climb can I use tomato stakes to get them to go vertical and not take up so much space, as long as the cucumber doesn’t weigh too much? Do zucchinis climb? If so can i do the same thing?

One thing ive been wondering about the motion activated sprinkler is if it works at night? Do you need any light around it?
If you have good success with round up check this stuff out:

http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-928-monsanto-quikpro-dry-formula-15oz.aspx (http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-928-monsanto-quikpro-dry-formula-15oz.aspx)

I think it’s the same as round up just stronger and super easy to mix (I even got some for my mom), and I think its cheaper than any other non-bulk concentrate/powder round up type mixes.

And I thought about putting this stuff in the pimp that product thread. If you have a crab, bermuda or other creeping grass problems this stuff is amazing, and perhaps the only thing that really works. Is a little expensive though:

http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-917-ornamec-1pt.aspx (http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-917-ornamec-1pt.aspx)

Also after hearing some very positive things i ordered some Airmax Cidekick the other day. Its not a weed killer, it just makes weed killers a lot more effective, perfect for hard to kill creeping grasses or “woody” weeds like poison ivy.

Also the best stuff in the world at making your life easier is Preen. If it didn’t work for you it means you put it on too late (unless youre reapplying right now is too late).

So my raised garden beds actually all started because I had 2 problems.

Instead of mulch beds in the front of the house around the foundation hedges there were tons of white rocks…. it looked very dated and overall just bad. I didn’t want to just throw mulch on top for a bunch of reasons. It turns out rocks are hard as shit to get rid of (although some dude took 3 wheels barrels worth off of craigslist). I remembered reading about putting gravel rocks for drainage on the bottom of raised garden beds, so i started coming up with this whole garden idea. I probably have around 4 inches of rocks mixed with dirt on the bottom of each bed (too much?)

Last year I got some Japanese hollies for free and planted them in my backyard. In the process I filled an entire 96 gallon trash can with dirt (I used to do moving as a side job and this was one of the heaviest things ive ever dealt with in my life). Turns out dirt is even harder to get rid of than rocks…... So the raised garden bed idea really started to make sense to me. I probably have around 5 inches of crappy dirt.

So for the rest of your question as to what kind of soil im using, im not sure. On top of the rocks and dirt I was thinking top soil mixed with fertilizer, peat moss and stuff. Or some cheap premix stuff. Ill have a solid 6 inches to fill with good soil. Any suggestions?

Great info!

I was worried that chives have those onion root bulbs and could become a weed in future years by coming back if I didn’t want it.
No bulbs like onions, but you can pot whatever if your concerned about it coming back. NOT everything will pot well, but check the VA AG xtension and they should have that info. Fl does

I had no idea that zucchinis may have to be manually pollinated, so ill be looking that up on youtube or asking you for help later on. Do you just do it once they flower? I tried it without pollinating and the zuccs would get a few inches long and just start rotting. Maybe not enough bee's? I thought starting some bee hives and may yet....very important little guys. It's perfect to check each morning about 9..ish (if possible) and pollinate everything that is open
Ive always liked ornamental plants so fortunately I have some semi decorative older plastic pots that I don’t use that will be perfect for the tomatoes and horse radish, ill probably need a couple more after this weekend though. Another cheap place to get stuff is Big Lots. Awesome store, I got my topsy tervy strawberry basket there for a whopping $2.50.
I'll check them out
Almost everything I have is from seed. Horse radish is a root and I bought that from a nursery. My brother has a indoor set up like you and is giving me 4-6 tomato plants this afternoon. And my dad contacted me out of nowhere and asked if I wanted him to mail me some raspberry bushes (about as random as a phone call can get). The only outstanding plants I need to buy are strawberries and grapes if I end up doing those (we’ll see how many raspberry bushes I get).

Still not sure if im keeping any of the pumpkins or watermelons. Many are spoken for at this point.

I have around 50 plants total, not 50 pepper plants. Unfortunately i only have green bell pepper plants.... might have to change that depending on how much space i have. I should have read it......
However I have like 30 or 40 pepper plants, same on Toms, etc. The last time I looked it takes about 5 healthy plants of a given variety for each family member to each that particular variety of veg.
I give a lot away as well

So are you saying since cuccs love to climb can I use tomato stakes to get them to go vertical and not take up so much space, as long as the cucumber doesn’t weigh too much? You can. It will take something strung in between a row of stakes to make that work. I have a bed 36" wide with a row of posts down the middle and stock fencing 5' tall strung down the middle so I can plant both sides if I want and let whatever climb each side...or not. ALso no to wide to reach across to weed or whatever. zucchinis climb? No If so can i do the same thing?

One thing ive been wondering about the motion activated sprinkler is if it works at night? Do you need any light around it? I think it works at night (no lights)I think as I had it turned mistakenly off one night and I lost like 12 ripe toms to the animal friends.....
If you have good success with round up check this stuff out:

http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-928-monsanto-quikpro-dry-formula-15oz.aspx (http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-928-monsanto-quikpro-dry-formula-15oz.aspx)

I think it’s the same as round up just stronger and super easy to mix (I even got some for my mom), and I think its cheaper than any other non-bulk concentrate/powder round up type mixes.

And I thought about putting this stuff in the pimp that product thread. If you have a crab, bermuda or other creeping grass problems this stuff is amazing, and perhaps the only thing that really works. Is a little expensive though:

http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-917-ornamec-1pt.aspx (http://southernstates.com/catalog/p-917-ornamec-1pt.aspx)

Also after hearing some very positive things i ordered some Airmax Cidekick the other day. Its not a weed killer, it just makes weed killers a lot more effective, perfect for hard to kill creeping grasses or “woody” weeds like poison ivy.

Also the best stuff in the world at making your life easier is Preen. If it didn’t work for you it means you put it on too late (unless youre reapplying right now is too late). COOL!

So my raised garden beds actually all started because I had 2 problems.

Instead of mulch beds in the front of the house around the foundation hedges there were tons of white rocks…. it looked very dated and overall just bad. I didn’t want to just throw mulch on top for a bunch of reasons. It turns out rocks are hard as shit to get rid of (although some dude took 3 wheels barrels worth off of craigslist). I remembered reading about putting gravel rocks for drainage on the bottom of raised garden beds, so i started coming up with this whole garden idea. I probably have around 4 inches of rocks mixed with dirt on the bottom of each bed (too much?)
In Fl you have to build in water retention...drainage is not a problem. Dirt is something you will experiment with....forever. I like my soil to require watering every 2-3 days. Longer than that and you may encounter various rot problems...much less and you water your self to death. Also there is a WORLD of irrigation systems available..Try it and see what you like. Start looking at some Gardening forums.....just don't tell anyone..
Much great info from some serious fanatics
***The AG extension will probably do free soil testing if you mail them a sample, and will have recommendations for you.

Last year I got some Japanese hollies for free and planted them in my backyard. In the process I filled an entire 96 gallon trash can with dirt (I used to do moving as a side job and this was one of the heaviest things ive ever dealt with in my life). Turns out dirt is even harder to get rid of than rocks…... So the raised garden bed idea really started to make sense to me. I probably have around 5 inches of crappy dirt.

So for the rest of your question as to what kind of soil im using, im not sure. On top of the rocks and dirt I was thinking top soil mixed with fertilizer, peat moss and stuff. Or some cheap premix stuff. Ill have a solid 6 inches to fill with good soil. Any suggestions?
Test the dirt with the VA AG service. You can call some local nurseries and tell them that you are looking to grow veggies(and check pricing). Damn dirt can get expensive. They will sell dirt by the yard. Buy a case of beer and employ one of you buds to make a dirt run for a yard or two at a time and you can mix with what you have to improve.
BUT test the dirt to make sure there are not any dealbreakers...high PH, etc

I should probably add....regarding dirt. Me and DirtBag's favorite subject. What works in S. Fl may be death to your stuff in VA. AND because it can get costly at startup and buying dirt if you have to....Don't. At least not yet. It may be better to go with what you have with possibly some minor mods until you get some Q's answered. And what you already have, may be perfect...to early to tell.
Correct watering is probably the hardest thing to get right....Forum people that live in your area will be happy to help....

If we are going to talk cold lets remember global warming.

Right, because if it's cold that totally discredits global warming.

Right, because if it's cold that totally discredits global warming.


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Using that logic let's talk again in August when it's 100+ and I guess global warming will be back on track.

Using that logic let's talk again in August when it's 100+ and I guess global warming will be back on track.

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Right, because if it's cold that totally discredits global warming.

Global warming has been disproven in many other ways. Anyone who still buys into the political hoax is either really uninformed or just very gullible.

Why are the Great Lakes now glacier free?
Mastodons were coal burners?