Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside

You actually believe that rubbish. :laughing- We already have the EPA. Climate change is just a phrase the Robber Barrons use to fix prices. You probably believe that GE is for helping out the little guy too? :laughing-

You've just taken the argument to another dimension.

You don't think that changes that might have less of an impact on the climate, increase domestic production, etc are beneficial, whether global warming is as pronounced as they say.. or not at all?

I don't get it.

You've just taken the argument to another dimension.

You don't think that changes that might have less of an impact on the climate, increase domestic production, etc are beneficial, whether global warming is as pronounced as they say.. or not at all?

I don't get it.

We already have an EPA to make sure the rivers are clean, children are healthy, and everyone breathes clean air. That's already the law. Let Dupont get caught dumping into the James; that's Federal time and millions in lawsuits, guaranteed.

Global warming and its new phrase, "climate change", is a ponzi scheme. It's like Coca Cola and Pepsi having a meeting to cut production while demand is high. What happens? The price goes up as does the profit. Coca Cola and Pepsi basically own the soda pop industry, so who's going to say anything? It's the same with the energy companies. It's basically a confederated monopoly. All they need is a Jolly Roger flag.

You actually believe that these dirtbags give two fat shits about you or me, let alone the freaking planet? They care about one thing, power. We're just numbers to them.

You've just taken the argument to another dimension.

You don't think that changes that might have less of an impact on the climate, increase domestic production, etc are beneficial, whether global warming is as pronounced as they say.. or not at all?

I don't get it.

I understand why you don't get it, because I can't explain it in a way that you will, because--- you fundamentally trust science/government. (yes I am making a guess about that).

If you realize that government is run by people, specifically people who want to guide (or control) your life, and they will use science as a new religion (science proves it, hence it must be so) to that end then you may start to see a reason why some people don't like ceding even more national rights to the world quasi -government or the world politicians.

It's not that the changes are in and of themselves bad, but instead that the motive behind them is covered over and made to look sweet, when there is a bitter truth behind much of it.

I am not saying govt should not exist, only that its authority and extent of control should be extremely limited. That is what our constitution as originally written created. It is not what our government - which sees 90+ year old men holding on to their powerful senate seats, or the federal government forcing the state, and thus the individual to abide by a restrictive law ie seatbelts (not a "bad" or evil law, but certainly restricting a decision that in and of itself has no bearing on our national security) - lives up to today.

So much of the argument is outside of politics though. Politics do eventually if not instantaneously flood whatever cause, of course.

I will agree that motives can be at question, I'm a strange mixture of an idealist and a realist I guess that you can say. I'm more than aware that most decisions are made out of politics and outside of the greater good, it's unfortunate. Most of what I argue is more out of idealism.

I've argued for a youth movement in the govt as well as committees needing unbiased leadership, but who knows how many kinks that would throw into the balance.

The day that I see the end of bipartisanship will be the day that I lend more of my heart instead of my ear to the government, until then, who knows.

It's been an early spring in my area, no global warming my A$$

So much of the argument is outside of politics though. Politics do eventually if not instantaneously flood whatever cause, of course.

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Again, if science is put into an unquestioned pedestal, as many -but not all, climate change activists do, it becomes a dangerous tool for political means.

the neighbor on the street recycles, why? because its good for the environment. But now an equally cynical power arises, if a politician encourages recycling, than an opponent who doesnt -maybe on an economic principle, than the pro recycling politician is also pro world and the anti recycling opponent favors killing the world. but really what happens is no one is in favor of killing the world so now, rather than stand on a sound principle the opponent is forced to accept, and try to minimize what in principle they are against. This method can be used effectively until the underlying "science" is no longer questioned, because to question it, is to attack the global climate.

It's been an early spring in my area, no global warming my A$$

I'll shoot that damn lying groundhog

IPCC underestimated Antarctic sea ice increase by 50% (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/287706)

Growing Glaciers (http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm)

The Real Facts on Increasing Antarctic Ice (http://www.ecoworld.com/global-warming/the-real-facts-on-increasing-antarctic-ice.html)

I lol'd:

YouTube - Preview: 'The Factor' Confronts Al Gore

THe whole spiel is global warming is man made and that is a total crock. THe best theory out is about how warming trends with the earth's temperature correlates with sunspot activity. Global Warming is way overplayed and is a tool to kill the US economy. Europe and the new economic giants of China and India pollute way more than the US does. Cap and Trade will just hinder US industry while the fat cats of US industry will still make billions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ selling off their surplus carbon credits to China, Russia, India so they can pollute!!!!

GW also causes earth quakes now>

Earth Quakes Probably Due to Global Warming: U.S., Canada, California, Myrtle Beach on waiting list - CNN iReport (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-418853)

And deadlier

Today's Quakes Deadlier Than In Past - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/18/tech/main4191556.shtml)