Jason Campbells response to Portis

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CRedskinsRule
01-06-2010, 12:43 PM
There's not always time for anything else. Besides, what are the position coaches for?

Are you just going by what you saw on TV or were you at all the games watching his every move?
Aren't you glad you won't have to hear about Hixon this pre-season! (vice versa if he does stay, it's gotta be some hidden pics :-))

Ruhskins
01-06-2010, 12:47 PM
I don't understand why the whole team sucks and should be fired, but Campbell gets a pass cause the whole team sucks and that's why he isn't doing well a lot of the time and he just needs another chance.

I just can't understand this mindset. I'm telling all of you Campbell supporters - you guys need some help. It's almost like a sickness or addiction or something.

I don't think Campbell or anyone gets a pass, I just find it laughable that you are saying that the team sucks because Campbell didn't have any leadership.

I also find it laughable with the notion that just by changing the QB things will turn around. We're not Minnesota, that had all the tools in place for the team that they had, and all they had to do is put in an old but effective QB.

53Fan
01-06-2010, 12:50 PM
Maybe this team has too many leaders and not enough followers. Everyone seems to have all the answers and their own agenda. If you can't get in line behind your QB, get the F out. It's the coaches decision who leads this team.

GTripp0012
01-06-2010, 12:52 PM
I don't understand why the whole team sucks and should be fired, but Campbell gets a pass cause the whole team sucks and that's why he isn't doing well a lot of the time and he just needs another chance.

I just can't understand this mindset. I'm telling all of you Campbell supporters - you guys need some help. It's almost like a sickness or addiction or something.Put as simply as possible, a lot of us spend a lot of free time trying to figure out where the problems on this team lie through the analysis of such tools as stats and game tape (even the flawed TV feed), and these people have come to a whole bunch of conclusions on where the problems lie. Others do not do this and it really does show in their posts.

There are people here who break down game film who feel that Campbell should not be brought back. Others feel he should be brought back, but under different circumstances. Both positions are pretty defensible, although I think sometimes the discussion can stray towards points where there is no supporting evidence (i.e. leadership).

warriorzpath
01-06-2010, 01:15 PM
Put as simply as possible, a lot of us spend a lot of free time trying to figure out where the problems on this team lie through the analysis of such tools as stats and game tape (even the flawed TV feed), and these people have come to a whole bunch of conclusions on where the problems lie. Others do not do this and it really does show in their posts.

There are people here who break down game film who feel that Campbell should not be brought back. Others feel he should be brought back, but under different circumstances. Both positions are pretty defensible, although I think sometimes the discussion can stray towards points where there is no supporting evidence (i.e. leadership).

I don't know, I think there's some supporting evidence for a lack of leadership in what is being said in the media -- with all the backstabbing going on, the way things were run and handled, and just simply the opinion of others made public.

GTripp0012
01-06-2010, 01:18 PM
I don't know, I think there's some supporting evidence for a lack of leadership in what is being said in the media -- with all the backstabbing going on, the way things were run and handled, and just simply the opinion of others made public.Yeah, that's not evidence one way or another. It's being filtered through three or four channels, and is being written to tell a story.

Even if it was evidence, I'm not sure what conclusions could be drawn from it.

SouperMeister
01-06-2010, 01:21 PM
A big part of the problem is the lack of talent that this football team has failed to put around players on offense, especially at the trenches.

Leadership is important but each player has its own type of leadership. Honestly, with people like Portis around and with the fact that the ownership did not want him, it would have been very difficult for Campbell to be the vocal leader people want him to be. And honestly, he would have looked like a moron if he was like that and we still had a 4-12 record.

I find it funny that you and Portis seemed to be the only people with an issue on Campbell's leadership, yet it appears that a number of players in the locker room back their QB, what does that tell you about leadership?

And I believe you are being simple minded in regards to blaming the deficiencies of this team on leadership. Jake Delhomme has always been portrayed as a very vocal and passionate QB, yet he played like crap and he's going to be on the bench next season. QBs like Eli Manning and Joe Flacco are not mouthing around their leadership, yet they've found success.Eli was slammed by the media his first few seasons for not being a "fiery leader". Campbell's work ethic and courage on the field are leadership enough. I hope that he's given the chance to start for us next year, because with improved protection, I still believe that he will make significant progress toward becoming a top-10 QB.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-06-2010, 01:23 PM
I'd rather have Campbell for 10 more seasons than have Portis on the team for 10 minutes past the start of the uncapped year. He needs to go.

SolidSnake84
01-06-2010, 01:27 PM
I'd rather have Campbell for 10 more seasons than have Portis on the team for 10 minutes past the start of the uncapped year. He needs to go.

Agreed 100%

warriorzpath
01-06-2010, 01:35 PM
Yeah, that's not evidence one way or another. It's being filtered through three or four channels, and is being written to tell a story.

Even if it was evidence, I'm not sure what conclusions could be drawn from it.

This isn't a courtroom where there's "hard" evidence.

And the fact of the matter is - that most of this is coming straight from the players and coaches involved. And even it is filtered - there's no one denying that what is being quoted was not accurate.

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