Redskins pick 4th in the draft

^ Yes.


Tebow seems like a great guy as a person (much like Zorn), but I don't want to experiment with a QB in the mold of others who have failed at the pro level. I don't think he'll succeed as a pro. His career could follow Pat White's...a backup or even emergency QB who only gets on the field for trick plays as a ball carrier.

I don't want to see the #4 pick wasted on any QB, but Tebow especially.

I would be seriously pissed if we drafted Tebow at 4 - i was just dramatically emphasizing my dislike for Clausen. While I think has the physical and mental skills to to eventually be a good NFL QB, i don't think he's NFL-ready right now. However, my main distaste for him is less tangible and has more to do with his personality - or atleast what i've seen of it. he has the persona of a cocky (not the same as confident), smart-ass kid who thinks too much of himself. I heard his interview with vinny cerrato and he just seemed like a total douche - he didn't seem like someone who would earn the respect of the locker room. To me, he just doesnt have the "it" factor. i don't see him as a "leader." Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow do. they have the persona that commands respect. While there is a high-risk, high reward factor with all of those guys (less so with Tebow), Bradford and McCoy are guys I can see being "manning/brady-esque" in their ability to make guys around them better, take the team on their shoulders, and win games. A guy with Claussen's attitude will never achieve that. I'd rather not gamble on any of these guys in the 1st round, but Claussens completely off my "board."

i mean, look at the guy.

File:102007-JimmyClausen.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:102007-JimmyClausen.jpg)

don't you just want to smack him?

Fair enough. You are not the first to call out Clausen as smug and arrogant.

I would be seriously pissed if we drafted Tebow at 4 - i was just dramatically emphasizing my dislike for Clausen. While I think has the physical and mental skills to to eventually be a good NFL QB, i don't think he's NFL-ready right now. However, my main distaste for him is less tangible and has more to do with his personality - or atleast what i've seen of it. he has the persona of a cocky (not the same as confident), smart-ass kid who thinks too much of himself. I heard his interview with vinny cerrato and he just seemed like a total douche - he didn't seem like someone who would earn the respect of the locker room. To me, he just doesnt have the "it" factor. i don't see him as a "leader." Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow do. they have the persona that commands respect. While there is a high-risk, high reward factor with all of those guys (less so with Tebow), Bradford and McCoy are guys I can see being "manning/brady-esque" in their ability to make guys around them better, take the team on their shoulders, and win games. A guy with Claussen's attitude will never achieve that. I'd rather not gamble on any of these guys in the 1st round, but Claussens completely off my "board."

i mean, look at the guy.

File:102007-JimmyClausen.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:102007-JimmyClausen.jpg)

don't you just want to smack him?

I agree with most of what you have to say. I wouldn't be totally pissed with McCoy in the first or Tebow in the second. Clausen just looks like a douche to me.

Hey Trample - that is an almost optimistic quote from you, don't get too carried away just yet.

just messing around, it's really good to see this team apparently moving toward the light.

New year buddy - new year!

My thoughts:

1. St Louis: May go QB here, but most likely Suh?
2. Detroit: Not going qb, Berry, Okung, Suh?
3. TB: Not going qb, Berry, McCoy, Okung
4. Washington: We may still have all of the QB's on the board if we so choose. Suh will be gone that's for sure. Okung most likely will be gone. I could see us sliding down a few spots if there's a partner willing. Teams need young qb's and we'll be sitting nicely. We potentially can slide down and still go OL or qb.

Trade back.

I say if we can trade down take C J Spiller keep Campbell and Brennan, build offensive line through the rest of the draft, and free agency (there are a few lineman out there) and we'll have someone that can take it to the house anytime he touches it whether at RB,WR, or returner. I think we could use a player like that on offense , because we don't have one right now..

Agreed, but at the same time if he does come out he's probably a mid-rounder. Shanahan could take him and develop him while starting Campbell for one more year-which isn't all that unlikely.

Shanahan is definitely drafting a QB this year. I just don't know where

I don't think Snead should leave school early. He had huge expectations on him this year, and he was pretty much a dud. He could improve his draft stock significantly if he sticks around Ole Miss for his senior year, plus he won't have the likes of Bradford, McCoy, Clausen, and Tebow to compete with. I mean this season his completion % was in the low 50's and he threw 20 INTs. I want no part of that dude.

I would probably recommend Snead return as well. And I'm not advocating him, just saying he's a possibility.

I like Snead but I probably like Zac Robinson better and I honestly don't know that I really want either one when all is said and done.

I would probably recommend Snead return as well. And I'm not advocating him, just saying he's a possibility.

I like Snead but I probably like Zac Robinson better and I honestly don't know that I really want either one when all is said and done.

Wasn't it Snead they were calling the interception machine?