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Slingin Sammy 33 01-06-2010, 07:59 AM I never played on Sundays I broke into Saturdays a couple of times but that was it.
It hurts me just thinking about it. Sean Taylor said it best "Playing a kids game for a kings ransom". I played the game but never got the ransome.I didn't get to play on those Sundays either. I would've paid the ransom just to be able to play on real Sundays.
cdskins26 01-06-2010, 01:59 PM You might want to re-thinking giving any creedence to anything Todd McShay says about... well, anything. The dudes clueless.
Clausen and leadership have no place in the same sentence. McCoy is arguably a system QB, but i'd take him over Clausen. Tebow's a good value pick later in the draft. Like i said earlier, i dont really like any of these guys. they're all projects and its a waste of a 1st round pick to draft a project QB. Hopefully Shanny can find a QB he likes in the 2nd or 4th.
I still think Tebow can play in the NFL but he's a two or three year plan, and this team is aging. We need a quarterback who can start week 1 and Clausen seems to be the best option from the draft who can do that.
53Fan 01-06-2010, 02:31 PM So I've been following McShay, and he thinks now that Anthony Davis, the Tackle from Rutgers is better or could pass Russell Okung come draft time, so skins fans who want okung and think we don't have a shot at getting him, theres still a good chance we could get him or this Davis kid, who they say can play guard if needed. Also Bryan Bulauga from Iowa, they say is not a LT in the nfl, and he's more of a guard or RT, so I think we could probably scratch him off our list.
I wouldn't be unhappy at all with getting Davis on this team. But I think I would choose Okung first. Either one would be a vast improvement over what we have.
TheMalcolmConnection 01-06-2010, 03:03 PM There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...
Larry Michael is Satan 01-06-2010, 03:35 PM A trade back scenario that will probably never happen:
Trade with Patriots,
Redkins give up our 1st this year, plus Santana Moss and/or Carlos Rogers.
Pats give up their 1st this year, AND the 2011 1st that they got from the RAIDERS in for R. Seymore.
Surely it would take more picks to smooth it out, but
The goal would be to come away with two quality lineman this year, then next year be in a position to draft Jake Locker, (the next Elway), plus an elite Left Tackle next year, via our own 2011 1st that will probably be pretty high. The Pats could get Gerald McCoy this year with our pick to replace Seymore, and have Santana replace the injured, and possibly done, Wes Welker.
We have to trust that the Raiders will suck next year, a longshot, but we could have, two top five picks next year.
It's going to take a while to rebuild this team, let's face it.
Larry Michael is Satan 01-06-2010, 03:41 PM There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...
Mike Iupati. He is a dude to build an o line around. He was taking on multiple lineman and LB's on nearly every play in their bowl game. He might be gone by the time we pick in the 2nd.
Monkeydad 01-06-2010, 04:07 PM There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...
Okung then the Idaho dude.
CultBrennan59 01-07-2010, 12:33 AM I think Iupati could be the Michael Oher of next year. I Love this guy, the problem is theres no reason for us to take him with the 4th overall pick, which will probably be a QB or OT. Plus in Free Agency is Guards Chester Pitts and Cris Kuper from Houston and Denver, so they already know the offense. And with our second rounder, we'll probably get whatever position we don't get with our first round pick. I personally think we should get Bradford, because all I keep hearing is how he is "super accurate" "good at getting rid of the ball and releasing it quickly" how he can "make all the NFL throws" and is "accuate when he is on the run as well". When I look at a QB the number one thing I'm looking at is is he accurate? Can he get the balls to his receivers? Thats this guy. This guy doesn't come out every year. Russell Okung and Anthony Davis type LT's come out pretty much every year. Plus you look at some of the LT's in the NFL and a lot of them are found pretty much from all the rounds of the draft. QB's that are good are typically in the first round. We've had Jason for 5 years and of the 4 he's played he really hasn't shown me he can be the QB that could take us to the Super Bowl. He's showed me that he can be a back up and fill in if the starting QB gets injured, but thats it. I have more bad memories and moments of Jason than positive moments of him (the time against the Giants he threw and interception 5yds passed the line of scrimmage really sticks out, as well as the games against Dallas, Pittsburgh, Giants where he held onto the ball way way too long, where he should have thrown it away. Pretty much every game which he throws a pass that ends up being a yard short of the first down, instead of going deep.Against the Saints when he was picked off against Vilma and Giants when he stepped way to far back in the pocket and Osi stripped him and ran the fumble in for a score. The only positive moment I have of Jason is when he threw that bomb against the saints a year ago to win, then again that seems to be the only highlight of jason that espn and nfln seem to show when they talk about him)
So I say we draft Sam Bradford and make him the opening day starter, and deal with the OL in FA and what ever we don't get there, get in the draft, which we will. Who knows maybe Bruce campbell of Maryland falls to us in the second round or Bryan Bulaga of Iowa or Jason Fox (he should definitley be there) or a Ciron Black or maybe who knows a Trent Williams could fall just enough for us to trade up
53Fan 01-07-2010, 12:52 AM There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...
I have and I agree. He's one bad dude. Hog material. :)
Ruhskins 01-07-2010, 12:57 AM I think Iupati could be the Michael Oher of next year. I Love this guy, the problem is theres no reason for us to take him with the 4th overall pick, which will probably be a QB or OT. Plus in Free Agency is Guards Chester Pitts and Cris Kuper from Houston and Denver, so they already know the offense. And with our second rounder, we'll probably get whatever position we don't get with our first round pick. I personally think we should get Bradford, because all I keep hearing is how he is "super accurate" "good at getting rid of the ball and releasing it quickly" how he can "make all the NFL throws" and is "accuate when he is on the run as well". When I look at a QB the number one thing I'm looking at is is he accurate? Can he get the balls to his receivers? Thats this guy. This guy doesn't come out every year. Russell Okung and Anthony Davis type LT's come out pretty much every year. Plus you look at some of the LT's in the NFL and a lot of them are found pretty much from all the rounds of the draft. QB's that are good are typically in the first round. We've had Jason for 5 years and of the 4 he's played he really hasn't shown me he can be the QB that could take us to the Super Bowl. He's showed me that he can be a back up and fill in if the starting QB gets injured, but thats it. I have more bad memories and moments of Jason than positive moments of him (the time against the Giants he threw and interception 5yds passed the line of scrimmage really sticks out, as well as the games against Dallas, Pittsburgh, Giants where he held onto the ball way way too long, where he should have thrown it away. Pretty much every game which he throws a pass that ends up being a yard short of the first down, instead of going deep.Against the Saints when he was picked off against Vilma and Giants when he stepped way to far back in the pocket and Osi stripped him and ran the fumble in for a score. The only positive moment I have of Jason is when he threw that bomb against the saints a year ago to win, then again that seems to be the only highlight of jason that espn and nfln seem to show when they talk about him)
So I say we draft Sam Bradford and make him the opening day starter, and deal with the OL in FA and what ever we don't get there, get in the draft, which we will. Who knows maybe Bruce campbell of Maryland falls to us in the second round or Bryan Bulaga of Iowa or Jason Fox (he should definitley be there) or a Ciron Black or maybe who knows a Trent Williams could fall just enough for us to trade up
I hate this attitude towards the offensive line. If you look around the league, a lot very good tackles in the league came from the first or second round (Jake Long, Levi Brown, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, D'Brickashaw Ferguson). With as much problems this team has had with that unit, I don't understand how someone could "hope for x or y player to fall to us" in order to build the line. I would hope that Shanahan, who drafted Clady (I believe), would find a way to draft a lineman in the first round. People forget that the reason Miami and the Jets have had reasonable success with young QBs, is because of the offensive lines they've built with first round tackles.
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