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mlmdub130
12-31-2009, 12:20 PM
No one expected Samuels to go down, or any of the other injuries for that matter. All this change will give us great results for years to come.

to think they had no idea about samuels condition is a bit naive, and randy thomas was coming off of neck and back surgeries in the off season if i'm not mistaken, i would think that also had to be a bit of a red flag wouldn't you.

obviously guys like cooley getting brokn bones can't be accounted for but samuels and thomas were ticking time bombs that exploded at the same time, and that could have been a lot better prepared for imo

diehardskin2982
12-31-2009, 01:32 PM
to think they had no idea about samuels condition is a bit naive, and randy thomas was coming off of neck and back surgeries in the off season if i'm not mistaken, i would think that also had to be a bit of a red flag wouldn't you.

obviously guys like cooley getting brokn bones can't be accounted for but samuels and thomas were ticking time bombs that exploded at the same time, and that could have been a lot better prepared for imo

It wasn't a matter not knowing about his condition. The fact of the matter is in Chris's 9 year career there was never a history of him being injured because of this spinal condition to my knowledge. Rinehart was supposed to be the replacement for Thomas. But as it was stated earlier no point crying over spilled milk.

bigm29
12-31-2009, 01:47 PM
This is gonna take time folks; gird yourself for it; this team is significantly worse than the one at the end of the “Spurrier Era”.

How can you say were significantly worse now than the team at the end of the Spurrier era?

Our Qb's were Ramsey, Rob Johnson and tim hasselebeck.

RB- Trung Canidate

WR- Coles and Rod Gardner

TE- Robert Royal

and the only good players he left us with on DEF were Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce, and Lavar Arrington.

ENOUGH SAID

bigm29
12-31-2009, 01:50 PM
I think our current roster is loaded with talent but lack coaching and motivation. Besides our offensive line, this is a playoff team, I think that Campbell can be a good enough QB if he is surrounded by the right guys, however he is not a great qb by any means

tryfuhl
12-31-2009, 02:34 PM
How can you say were significantly worse now than the team at the end of the Spurrier era?

Our Qb's were Ramsey, Rob Johnson and tim hasselebeck.

RB- Trung Canidate

WR- Coles and Rod Gardner

TE- Robert Royal

and the only good players he left us with on DEF were Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce, and Lavar Arrington.

ENOUGH SAID

Canidate had a good year for us but that foot injury ended his career.

Defensewins
12-31-2009, 03:23 PM
I think our current roster is loaded with talent but lack coaching and motivation. Besides our offensive line, this is a playoff team, I think that Campbell can be a good enough QB if he is surrounded by the right guys, however he is not a great qb by any means

Vinny? Is that you?

Seriously though, I will agree with you that our current coaching staff has not done well as it relates to development of young inexperienced players. In fact it has sucked.
But our roster is not loaded with talent and we are not a few players away from the playoffs. Yes on paper we have some good talent at certain positions. TE comes to mind. But we also have old players on their way out at other positions and nobody being groomed on our current roster worthy to replace them. We do not have a young Mark Schlereth, Raleigh McKenzie or Ed Simmons on our bench ready to come in and take over for a aging or departing player like Chris Samuels or Randy Thomas like we did back in the 80's. It is amazing to think we had those three guys (Schlreth, McKenzie and Simmons) on our bench as back ups. Now that was a loaded roster...not this shit we have now.

mlmdub130
12-31-2009, 03:28 PM
Vinny? Is that you?

Seriously though, I will agree with you that our current coaching staff has not done well as it relates to development of young inexperienced players. In fact it has sucked.
But our roster is not loaded with talent and we are not a few players away from the playoffs. Yes on paper we have some good talent at certain positions. TE comes to mind. But we also have old players on their way out at other positions and nobody being groomed on our current roster worthy to replace them. We do not have a young Mark Schlereth, Raleigh McKenzie or Ed Simmons on our bench ready to come in and take over for a aging or departing player like Chris Samuels or Randy Thomas like we did back in the 80's. It is amazing to think we had those three guys (Schlreth, McKenzie and Simmons) on our bench as back ups. Now that was a loaded roster...not this shit we have now.

:goodjob:

atleast there is one person who sees it the way i do

SmootSmack
12-31-2009, 03:29 PM
I think Edwin Williams and Chad Rinehart will make fine interior linemen. We definitely need tackles though

FRPLG
12-31-2009, 03:49 PM
I think our current roster is loaded with talent but lack coaching and motivation. Besides our offensive line, this is a playoff team, I think that Campbell can be a good enough QB if he is surrounded by the right guys, however he is not a great qb by any means

Whoa whoa whoa there Jon Gruden! It isn't all sunshine and rainbows.

We are below average in the secondary, have issues at LB (maybe scheme related), don't have a proven WR1, don't have a reliable RB1. I think if perfectly healthy and playing lights out we're like a 10-win team. Regressed to normal we're an 8-win team tops.

Defensewins
12-31-2009, 03:53 PM
I think Edwin Williams and Chad Rinehart will make fine interior linemen. We definitely need tackles though

I certainly hope so, but they have not shown that yet. Edwin Williams has done well when given a chance to play. Rinehart has been kind of a turd for a third round pick.
I am not sure why we are not starting more of our young players this week so we can evaluate them against real NFL talent
Not weak opponent they would face in 2010 preseason.
This is another example of the kind of lack of forethought our team has. We always seems a step behind. Our FO is never a step ahead.
Next game should be about evaluating our roster for 2010, who cares if we do not win that game.

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