What if Fred started 16 games?

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BigHairedAristocrat
12-23-2009, 02:52 PM
I disagree. Unless you get a first round pick for Davis, which you won't, there's nothing but downside to trading him. He's one year removed from being a rookie, isn't anywhere close to hitting his potential, and yet he's already paying dividends worthy of a second round pick.

His true value will only be realized if he stays with the burgundy and gold, keeps punching the clock and keep producing.

Exactly. If anything, we should hold on to Davis (he's cheap) next year and trade him after the 2010 season. As long as Cooley's here,we certainly won't get him to resign here when his rookie contract expires after the 2011 season. We'd be better of getting a 2nd round pick for him in 2012 than letting him walk and getting a later-round compensatory pick for him in 2013.

GTripp0012
12-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Davis should be the starting TE next year. Cooley should stay in the starting lineup, replacing the FB in the offense. He can play in the backfield, or on the line, or in the slot and be used to create mismatches all over the field.

I believe you Washingtonian's call it an "H-Back".

Longtimefan
12-23-2009, 03:41 PM
Oh, how quickly we forget the best that we have. Cooley is a Redskin, and I can't say let's replace him just because he got hurt and Davis plays in his place. If we had Cooley right now we might be looking at different plays being called with two tight ends in the lineup. Nope, I can't agree to a trade of Cooley for a 3rd round pick!

You must admit though his play does sort of make us forget he overslept wouldn't you agree?

44Deezel
12-23-2009, 04:11 PM
Comparing Cooley's numbers to Davis this year doesn't really make any sense. Cooley was pacing for yet another pro-bowl year before he got hurt despite a pathetic offense and no Sherm Lewis calling plays. Davis has stepped in and been great, but his time as a starter began right when our offense decided to move the ball. No reason to think Cooley's numbers wouldn't be stellar if he was playing right now.

Great. So we have 2 pro-bowl caliber TEs. Get rid of one of them. The older one preferably. I can't think of a single team that won the Super Bowl, BECAUSE they had 2 great pass catching TEs. Hell, you can get by without even 1 really good pass catching TE.

Using pure logic and treating it purely as a business decision, Cooley should go. Nothing personal.

GTripp0012
12-23-2009, 04:16 PM
Great. So we have 2 pro-bowl caliber TEs. Get rid of one of them. The older one preferably. I can't think of a single team that won the Super Bowl, BECAUSE they had 2 great pass catching TEs. Hell, you can get by without even 1 really good pass catching TE.

Using pure logic and treating it purely as a business decision, Cooley should go. Nothing personal.This is a horrible solution to the "not enough quality skill position players" issue. I mean, you can use the pick received to draft a wide receiver or a running back who you hope can be a better compliment to Davis than Cooley can, but this isn't exactly the Tony Gonzalez situation all over again.

If we're not planning to be competitive in the NFC East before Cooley is 33 and offering only experience in the TE position as his only skill, we've hired the wrong guy.

I think we'd be best off trading Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly to open up room for Marko Mitchell to play, or Santana Moss, or Laron Landry than someone who is providing a relatively inexpensive solution to a major need in the offense: someone who will get open and catch the ball.

diehardskin2982
12-23-2009, 04:20 PM
what are you guys thoughts on a DeAngello Williams for Cooley trade?

Lotus
12-23-2009, 04:29 PM
what are you guys thoughts on a DeAngello Williams for Cooley trade?

DeAngelo for Cooley and whom?

tryfuhl
12-23-2009, 04:32 PM
Doesn't Fred line up in the slot now?
He might be; I honestly haven't noticed/paid attention. I know that we did that with Cooley some as well.

luvthemskins1975
12-23-2009, 04:32 PM
Fred Davis is a great talent and like everyone has been saying we need to keep #86 and #47. I am glad to see him not jumping in the air anymore , but now we have to teach him to hold on to the ball.

tryfuhl
12-23-2009, 04:33 PM
I would say Cooley is peaking... peaked makes it sound as if he's on the downside to me.
I agree. I think that we know what we have in Cooley and that's way more than enough to be satisfied, but I wouldn't say he's put up his best performance yet or anything.

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