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Ruhskins 12-22-2009, 09:51 AM I'm still blown out of my mind that people think Portis would generate any kind of favorable draft pick. I'm serious guys, i really believe that he would only get us a 4th round or 3rd round pick. And it's not just his physical condition/injury risk that would warn off teams...its his attitude too.
I would trade Portis for a 3rd rounder in a flash. Unfortunately, we may need to keep him since he appears to be the only RB who can pass block...but I would hope that the new FO would take care of the line in the offseason.
SolidSnake84 12-22-2009, 09:57 AM Then if we have no choice but to keep him, then they need to use him in pass blocking situations only, and use him absolutley sparingly in running situations. However, being the person that CP is...he would likely never agree to this.
We need to go ahead and trade him for whatever we can get at this point. Don't let ourselves be fooled into thinking that CP is the only back out there who can pass block.
Ruhskins 12-22-2009, 10:06 AM Then if we have no choice but to keep him, then they need to use him in pass blocking situations only, and use him absolutley sparingly in running situations. However, being the person that CP is...he would likely never agree to this.
We need to go ahead and trade him for whatever we can get at this point. Don't let ourselves be fooled into thinking that CP is the only back out there who can pass block.
Exactly the reason why he needs to go. And while it may not make sense to some, I think Portis is a symbol (not the only one) of the dysfunction that has happened with this team. Every time there's talk of getting a new RB, analysts are always like "what would Portis think of this?" or "Portis is not going to like this." And it shouldn't be this way. I think this team needs to take a page from other teams who have parted with their aging RB (Baltimore and J. Lewis, Colts and Edge, Giants with Tiki, etc., etc.) and just part ways with Portis.
BigHairedAristocrat 12-22-2009, 10:12 AM 1) Clinton Portis
2) Randel El
3) Santana Moss
4) Casey Rabach
5) Laron Landry
5) Chris Samuels
6) Randy Thomas
7) Stephon Heyer
8) Whoever decided that Levi Jones didn't need TE help
9) Rock Cartwright
10) Fred Smoot
CrackBack 12-22-2009, 10:13 AM I am floored at all the Rock hate.
He shouldn't be a return man. We saw that last night when he couldn't outrun an LB in the open field. But he has crazy heart and is an animal on ST (not the return aspect, buit all others) and is not a bad 3rd string back or blocking back.
Pocket$ $traight 12-22-2009, 10:16 AM I'm still blown out of my mind that people think Portis would generate any kind of favorable draft pick. I'm serious guys, i really believe that he would only get us a 4th round or 3rd round pick. And it's not just his physical condition/injury risk that would warn off teams...its his attitude too.
No one is giving us a ham sandwich for Portis, Cooley or Landry. They have stupid contracts and no one is going to take them on.
The guys that could get traded would be Campbell and Rogers and we might get a 6th and 7th rounder for each.
Just like our coaches, people need to pull their head out of their asses.
CrackBack 12-22-2009, 10:21 AM my 10
1-ARE
2-Portis
3-Landry (well, trade him. I love his passion and hard hits, but he misses people more than he hits them and gets burned faster than a joint at woodstock.)
4-8 - The entire O-line -- with Samuels going out gracefully in retirement
9-Betts - I think he had potential, but I don't think we will ever know now.
10- Not that I want it, but I wouldn't be sad to see Moss go.
tryfuhl 12-22-2009, 10:35 AM I'm still blown out of my mind that people think Portis would generate any kind of favorable draft pick. I'm serious guys, i really believe that he would only get us a 4th round or 3rd round pick. And it's not just his physical condition/injury risk that would warn off teams...its his attitude too.
I'd take a 3rd for Portis any day of the week.
Slingin Sammy 33 12-22-2009, 10:35 AM No one is giving us a ham sandwich for Portis, Cooley or Landry. They have stupid contracts and no one is going to take them on.
The guys that could get traded would be Campbell and Rogers and we might get a 6th and 7th rounder for each.
Just like our coaches, people need to pull their head out of their asses.First off, the point of the thread was to ignore salary cap ramifications. Second, you underestimate the value of our players and the stupidity of some NFL personnel folks (Lions, Browns, Raiders, etc.). Third, in an uncapped season dumping bad contracts in some sort of sign and trade is a possibility, even if the compensation is for 4th and lower round picks.
- Portis - some team looking for help at RB with a solid OL would be interested in him for a 1 or 2 year deal.
- Cooley - Pro Bowl TE, he has value.
- Landry - Has physical tools, upstairs seems pretty vacant but some defensive HC will look at him and blame his poor performance on the Skins poor coaching/organization and think they can make a superstar out of him.
- Campbell - as others have said he could be a solid backup or game manager, certainly worth more than a 6th rounder.
- Rogers - meh, if I can't get value keep him next year for depth.
and about pulling heads out of hind-quarters....think before you post.
jgalecpa 12-22-2009, 11:53 AM Most are based on performance, some on trade value.
1. Fred Smoot
2. Jason Campbell
3. LaRon Landry
4. Chris Cooley (Trade value)
5. Carlos Rogers
6. Clinton Portis
7. Sanata moss
8. ARE
9. Chris Samuels
10. Mike Sellers
Financial Considerations not withstanding.
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