Portis
ARE
Rabach
wynn
randy thomas
c griff
betts
collins
blache
trade cooley and
trade campbell to the texans for matt schaub
Where's your boy Doughty?
dmek25
12-28-2009, 09:56 AM
Ya know whats funny I was thinking something like this the other day. I wondered how many O-lineman we had when someone said cut them all....I figured 4 starters across the board, 4 backups, plus 2. for a total of 10. :)
But I like Heyer as a Guard. Dockery is not bad.
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are you watching the same thing as me? neither of these guys are NFL quality starters
perez24
12-28-2009, 01:26 PM
ARE
Landry. I know he's "out of position" and all that junk but he seems to get burned regardless of the position
Sellers (don't know the cap hit)
Heyer
Collins
Wynn
Betts
Cartwright
I'm sure there are more.
drew54
12-28-2009, 05:50 PM
QB - Vet min offer for Campbell, if someone signs him for more, hooray draft pick.(Free Agent/Draft future starter.)
RB - Cut Portis, Cartwright(plays hard, but is not a viable back up RB) (Free Agent/Draft future starter.)
FB - Sellers is a tough guy, but part of the problem I fear. - YODER to start at Fullback next year.
WR - Moss, ARE, Time for the youth to step up.
LT - Samuels, time to retire.
RG - Thomas, time to retire.
C - Rabach is kept as depth only but should hopefully not be the starter thanks to a rookie or FA.
OL - All others are kept to compete for their jobs. Hopefully there are two rookie tackles that can come in and start. These should be taken with our first two draft picks.
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Defense has me worried. Can it improve in a different 4-3 scheme, or could it be morphed to 3-4?
It seems that most of the pieces to the puzzle are there except at CB/S. On our DL, depending on if Orakpo or Jarmon become a full time DE, then our DTs seem set with Big Al, and Golston/Montgomery/Griffin(When healthy).
Linebacker seems set with maybe an upgrade to replace Rocky(Wilson?)
CB/S is where the most turnover should occur. Rogers should be tendered the vet min offer, and if he is signed else where, again hooray draft pick. Smoot is always trying to make a big play and allowing the 7 yard pass. Our youngsters Westbrook/Tryon/Barnes are left to compete for their job with any new comers we can draft or sign in free agency.
Landry cannot and should not have to cover ever again. Doughty/Horton/Moore kept to battle out the depth spots, and a true Free Saftey drafted/signed.
K/P I think we should be fine. Maybe bring in a competitor for both to keep them sharp.
It's going to take more than the vet min in order to get a draft pick in return for JC.
skinsfan69
12-28-2009, 09:35 PM
The bottom line is the current group of core guys are not good enough to contend for a Super Bowl. It's questionable whether or not they're good enough to even be a play off contender. It's time to gut this team and start over. And if Allen decides to do that then a lot more than 10 guys are going to get the ax.
drew54
12-29-2009, 01:02 AM
It's going to take more than the vet min in order to get a draft pick in return for JC.
I am not sure of the qualifying offer that is required, but most of the time if the team offers a RFA a contract and another team signs them to a larger deal, there is draft pick compensation.
Isn't this how we landed all of those Jets back in the day?
rbanerjee23
12-29-2009, 01:12 AM
what is the best we can expect for JC 5th, 4th if we're lucky...might as well keep him around, draft a qb to learn, let JC build some more value if possible and let him go next year
GTripp0012
12-29-2009, 03:37 AM
If you're lucky, you'll get a pair of seconds for him, which was the price the Texans paid for Schaub. You probably will not be that lucky.
A second and a sixth, or a third and a fourth seems more reasonable.
Gmanc711
12-29-2009, 10:42 AM
I do hope we keep JC, and just foucus on the line... if a QB falls to the second, then we start to think about it there. I really do not want to take a QB with the 6th pick. This could change depending on how free agency goes....
At this point though, no one should be safe. I'm gonna let Bruce Allen do his thing, and there are some players on this team that I really like, but if they turn this ship upside down and start trading guys like Cooley or something, I wont be happy...but I cant be mad at those types of moves either...we've been that bad. Honest to god, outside of Orakpo, Haynesworth and Fletcher... theres not a single person on this team I can say with 100% certainty will be here next season. (I dont think we're gonna cut 50 guys...but I just dont know who you pick)...