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SmootSmack 12-20-2009, 04:40 PM Smoot, what do you think the chances are we get Shanahan? Or, put another way, what are the chances Jerry Jones DOESN'T want Shanahan?
Tough to say. San Diego is out now that they're going to (if they haven't already) give Norv Turner a contract extension. Bears are a longshot with the money they have tied to Lovie Smith and they're frugal habits. So that leaves Houston, Dallas, and DC as the most likely. And I think all have a pretty equal shot.
Dallas is closer to home for Shan Wow (Matty chose not to include my new nickname for Shanahan when he posted my text to him. That bastard-I'm adding him to my ignore list), and they already have a strong running game as well as Tony Romo (who Shanahan is a fan of, both are Eastern Illinois guys). So that's their advantage
Houston has probably the least "intrusive" owner and already has his son and many of his other former assistants on the staff. So that's their advantage.
The big question is really if JJ is willing to eat the cost of Jason Garrett or if he can convince Shanahan to keep him on the staff. Gun to my head today I'll say Shanahan ends up here. Cowboys either promote Garrett or bring back Mike Zimmer to be the head coach at a fraction of the cost they would pay someone like Shanahan. And Houston either stays with Kubiak if they make the playoffs, and if not goes after Bill Cowher (and short of that Leslie Frazier)
BigHairedAristocrat 12-20-2009, 04:50 PM Interesting. I dont think money will be an important factor for Jones. According to PFT, he was offering to pay $25MM to host a boxing match there. I think a lot of what Florio writes is total crap, but i think he was on the money when he opined that Shanahan was just using Snyder to force Jerry Jones' hand.
Ruhskins 12-20-2009, 09:43 PM Am I the only one who finds it laughable when people say that Snyder is more meddlesome than Jerry Jones? I mean JJ is the freaking GM of the team...shit, he probably tells Grimace Phillips what plays to call.
SmootSmack 12-20-2009, 10:02 PM Am I the only one who finds it laughable when people say that Snyder is more meddlesome than Jerry Jones? I mean JJ is the freaking GM of the team...shit, he probably tells Grimace Phillips what plays to call.
Well one argument against Snyder is that at least Jones is up front about being General Manager, instead of hiding. But that's those that believe that Snyder is overly meddlesome, as opposed to just an involved business owner
Ruhskins 12-20-2009, 10:08 PM Well one argument against Snyder is that at least Jones is up front about being General Manager, instead of hiding. But that's those that believe that Snyder is overly meddlesome, as opposed to just an involved business owner
I hear what you say. However, unless someone in here has intimate knowledge of what happens behind closed doors at Redskins Park, to our knowledge Snyder has had other people involved in the decision-making process like Vinny and Joe Gibbs. Jerry Jones doesn't have a GM, he is the GM, he makes all the decisions. Snyder is a meddlesome owner, more than any owner, except Jerry Jones.
TheSmurfs22 12-20-2009, 10:15 PM Brittany Murphy?
EDIT: holy cow, I just saw that she died of a heart attack. At 32 years old. Terrible.
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I have wondered for awhile if she did not have an eating disorder, that could lead to cardiac arrest as well.
SmootSmack 12-20-2009, 10:16 PM I hear what you say. However, unless someone in here has intimate knowledge of what happens behind closed doors at Redskins Park, to our knowledge Snyder has had other people involved in the decision-making process like Vinny and Joe Gibbs. Jerry Jones doesn't have a GM, he is the GM, he makes all the decisions. Snyder is a meddlesome owner, more than any owner, except Jerry Jones.
There are a lot of "meddlesome" owners, but most aren't as public as Snyder. As the years go by it's increasingly difficult for me to have direct sources inside Redskins Park and I'm no longer working down there so I'm not in the locker room or at Redskins Park like I was seven or so years ago. So yeah I don't really know the absolute extent of what is going on now. I know that Scott Campbell is very, very involved in the off-season and Mo Brown during the regular season. I know that Schar and Fred Smith have input as owners (not as much the other owners).
But anyway, yeah I think Jones is more of a "one man band" than Snyder. Won't be popular for me to say, but Jones is a sharp man. Very intelligent. Not sure he should be the GM though
mlmdub130 12-20-2009, 10:16 PM I hear what you say. However, unless someone in here has intimate knowledge of what happens behind closed doors at Redskins Park, to our knowledge Snyder has had other people involved in the decision-making process like Vinny and Joe Gibbs. Jerry Jones doesn't have a GM, he is the GM, he makes all the decisions. Snyder is a meddlesome owner, more than any owner, except Jerry Jones.
many would think they are both too involved, but atleast jerry jones has some actual football knowledge and background, snyder knows how to run a telecomunications company
jerry jones may be medelsome but he has had enjoyed successes as a medelsome owner, snyder has not
Ruhskins 12-20-2009, 10:22 PM many would think they are both too involved, but atleast jerry jones has some actual football knowledge and background, snyder knows how to run a telecomunications company
jerry jones may be medelsome but he has had enjoyed successes as a medelsome owner, snyder has not
I would put Jones first and Snyder second (in regards of being meddlesome). I'm curious to know, was JJ this involved when Jimmy Johnson was the HC? Just curious.
SmootSmack 12-20-2009, 10:34 PM I would put Jones first and Snyder second (in regards of being meddlesome). I'm curious to know, was JJ this involved when Jimmy Johnson was the HC? Just curious.
I don't think so. I think that was the big thing. Jones wanted more control and thought he didn't need Johnson so they went different ways.
Al Davis, Ralph Wilson, Bud Adams, Mike Brown, Zygi Wilf, all examples of "meddlesome" owners. Though Adams seems to have only become one in recent years perhaps due to his advancing age.
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