Violence in pro sports.

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Cush
03-09-2004, 10:26 PM
The most recent one I can recall was Marty McSorley

I think this is worse than the McSorley incident. The Canucks (Brad May, I think) had put a 'bounty' on Moore, this was premeditated.

Bertuzzi is responsible for the severity of the injury, but having all those other players piling on didn't help.

Scott
03-09-2004, 11:08 PM
what a bunch of cowards, its one thing to determine that you are looking to get a good hit on somebody before a game...which happens all the time..but to head hunt from behind is just cowboyish..

itvnetop
03-10-2004, 12:26 AM
on the canucks messageboards, most of the fans understand that what happened was pretty disgusting (and has no place in sports). there are still a few fans that actually say that what bertuzzi did wasn't as bad as at seems...

when i see support of the perpetrator like this, it really bugs me how team allegiences can cloud certain people's perspectives on incidents like last night. we all love sports and our home teams, but i can't believe a few fans actually thought the hit wasn't "that bad."

skinsfanthru&thru
03-10-2004, 01:09 AM
I can't help but cringe whenever they show the replay of what happened. and after he'd smashed the guy's head into the ground he got in a couple more punches. With something of this nature being premeditated, he has to be suspended for more than the 20 or so games a lot of hockey people r saying will be the penalty. The guy who got attacked is actually not only for the injury not likely to be career ending but more importantly he's lucky he didn't die as a result of this cowardly attack. this is why it's hard to get into hockey and baseball sometimes cuz guys and teammates carry over grudges and try to get revenge when they get a chance. sooner or later one of these types of attacks will result in a prison sentence and maybe things will get cleaned up a bit. there's no room in sports for revenge like this.

beg8878
03-10-2004, 01:29 AM
Its on ESPN Motion @ ESPN.com if you get a chance to look at it

for some reason I can;t get the video there. Anyone know another link where I can find it?

Ghost
03-10-2004, 02:20 AM
I haven't seen the clip and I don't really follow hockey but if the guy's a normal human being, he's probably feeling like shit tonight because he lost it and hurt somebody and brought true shame to himself and his family. Secondarily, his career could be over. Not really defending a goon who acts like that but I try to see both sides.

SittingBull
03-10-2004, 02:29 AM
They were showing some of his past hits on Sportscenter tonight and ALL of them were cheapshots from behind or blindspot. He's a pussy and has problems with who he is if he has to resort to stuff like that.

Gmanc711
03-10-2004, 08:00 AM
Beg, as soon as you get on espn.com this morning(wend) its on the main section of the site, and they have the clip there.

Daseal
03-10-2004, 08:27 AM
The motion thing popped up in my task bar for me.

I don't agree with the move at all, but it didn't look as bad to me as it was explained. No doubt this guy should be banned for 1 year+ but I seriously doubt he meant to break the guys neck. It was a real cheap shot and I don't agree with it, to me it just didn't seem that violent.

Obviously I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. I just had the idea that he really wailed on the guy after he was down, looks like he just fell on him.

NY_Skinsfan
03-10-2004, 09:13 AM
I love hockey...i love to watch the face to face fighting. I don't have a problem with fighting in hockey because for the most part it is controlled with the refs right there waiting to break up the fight as soon as a knee touches the ice. What Bertuzzi did was definitely wrong and should be punished with a hefty suspension...But it is not the worst that I have seen. There have been players that have used their sticks as a weapon and slashed at the heads of other players..That is assualt with a deadly weapon. Yes it was a cheap shot, but Bertuzzi did not intentionally plan on driving his head in the ice. That was just a seriously unfortunate thing to happen. Compare it to McSorely when he was just skating by Brashear a couple years ago. Now that was more premeditated that what Bertuzzi did.

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