Report: Shanahan to DC done deal


CRedskinsRule
01-05-2010, 04:45 PM
Ok, i'll be more specific. 1997 and 1998. Guess thats what? 11 and 12 years ago? (Admittedly not 20, but more than 10). Since then, Shanahan hasn't done anything impressive. Cowher on the other hand, had most of his success in his most recent 10 years.

If you look at their two careers, they appear to be going in different directions. Cowher - UP, Shanahan, Down.

BHA, another way to look at that, is that Cowher took a long time to get his team set up the way he wanted it, again, he won't get that here. Shanahan took an existing team and got it functionally better, that is a better model for what we want. Shanahan Sr won't be coaching for 10 years here, maybe 5 at most, and then he will pass the torch to his son, IF everything goes good. It will be a better longterm solution.

I am confident that I am looking at it with rose colored glasses, and if in the end its another fiasco, i'll be ticked, but I believe these changes are going to bring the Redskins franchise out of the NFL doghouse, and I am glad about that. Cowher wouldn't do that, I don't think. I think he would come in and fight DS and in the end he would leave and our franchise would be in worse shape. But I can acknowledge that is pure speculation, and that if he was coming here, I would probably be supporting the move as much as I do Shanahan's (hopefully) imminent hiring.

wolfeskins
01-05-2010, 04:50 PM
The head coach is JUST as responsible for the teams defense as he is the offense, so i don't get your point here. If we were talking about offensive or defensive coordinators, then it would make sense to compare how their individual units performed. The head coach is responsible for results: coaching a team that can win football games and go to the playoffs.



all i'm saying is you can't give a head coach too much credit or too much blame for his success in the nfl. true some coaches are better than others but it takes more than just a good hc to make the playoffs year after year and to be able to compete for a super bowl.

you act as if cower is a better coach than shanny just because the steelers were a bit more succssful.

skinsguy
01-05-2010, 04:52 PM
Ok, i'll be more specific. 1997 and 1998. Guess thats what? 11 and 12 years ago? (Admittedly not 20, but more than 10). Since then, Shanahan hasn't done anything impressive. Cowher on the other hand, had most of his success in his most recent 10 years.

Yeah, 11 and 12 years ago doesn't equal 20 years ago. Nice try.



If you look at their two careers, they appear to be going in different directions. Cowher - UP, Shanahan, Down.


And looking at the whole body of work from either coach, Shanahan has more Super Bowls. Has only had two seasons that were below .500. While Cowher may or may not have a better winning percentage, it took him his whole career to win one Super Bowl. Mike turned the Broncos around in a short time and turned them into Super Bowl Champions.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 04:55 PM
all i'm saying is you can't give a head coach too much credit or too much blame for his success in the nfl. true some coaches are better than others but it takes more than just a good hc to make the playoffs year after year and to be able to compete for a super bowl.

you act as if cower is a better coach than shanny just because the steelers were a bit more succssful.

not just a bit more successful - significantly so in recent history. in addition, the idea is that cowher would bring in guys that he worked with (or their proteges) whereas shanahan is working with a guy with a horrible draft record (only tampa bay counts - allen had absolutely nothing to do with the draft in oakland). Shanahan's draft record as defacto GM in Denver isnt that impressive either. I'd take Cowher and whoever he wanted working with himself and Allen over Shanahan and Allen any day of the week.

That said, I really like Morocco Brown and if he's promoted (as smoot alluded to), then he'll be more involved in the decision making process and can hopefully convince shanahan to make wise moves.

tryfuhl
01-05-2010, 04:56 PM
Come on, he could tell Shanny who to get as our next great QB/WR combo!
or even a QB/QB combo

SmootSmack
01-05-2010, 04:58 PM
Bill Cowher didn't win a single NFL Game in the 2007-2008 seasons....while Shanahan won 15. End of discussion :)

tryfuhl
01-05-2010, 04:59 PM
Bill Cowher didn't win a single NFL Game in the 2007-2008 seasons....while Shanahan won 15. End of discussion :)
That was so 4 years ago.

CHAMP757
01-05-2010, 05:29 PM
That was so 4 years ago.

its 2012 already, i mustve been a coma for 2 years

53Fan
01-05-2010, 05:32 PM
its 2012 already, i mustve been a coma for 2 years

Me too. Did we win the SB yet?

Darrell_Green_28
01-05-2010, 05:35 PM
No updates on Shanahan anywheres? or anything on Buges retirement?

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