Report: Shanahan to DC done deal


dmek25
01-05-2010, 02:09 PM
PFT was saying the rumor is MORE than $10 mil per year. That is just retarded money. And, unless we have to fire him "for cause," (thank you Al Davis) that money is all guaranteed. So if Shanny crashes and burns, we're deeper in the hole than ever...
why? Snyder is loaded to the gills, and has already proven he will spend money.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 02:20 PM
PFT was saying the rumor is MORE than $10 mil per year. That is just retarded money. And, unless we have to fire him "for cause," (thank you Al Davis) that money is all guaranteed. So if Shanny crashes and burns, we're deeper in the hole than ever...

shanahan's teams have never been perennial contenders like Cowhers, but he's never "crashed and burned." his teams were generally "in the mix" in weeks 14-17. the big positive of signing shanahan to a large, garaunteed contract is we will have stability on offense for atleast 5 years. with that stability, hopefully we can develop a franchise QB and put points up on the board regularly.

in the worst-case scenario with shanahan, we're trading a perennial top 10 defense for a perennial top 10 offense. We'll also have a team run by someone who is an unquestioned leader.

I am still adamant that Cowher is a far superior coach to Shanahan and we should be doing everything possible to sign him instead. That said, locking Shanahan up for 5 years and making it next to impossible for Snyder to grow impatient and fire him early is "the next best thing." its certainly a step in the right direction.

Nomad
01-05-2010, 02:28 PM
shanahan's teams have never been perennial contenders like Cowhers, but he's never "crashed and burned." his teams were generally "in the mix" in weeks 14-17. the big positive of signing shanahan to a large, garaunteed contract is we will have stability on offense for atleast 5 years. with that stability, hopefully we can develop a franchise QB and put points up on the board regularly.

in the worst-case scenario with shanahan, we're trading a perennial top 10 defense for a perennial top 10 offense. We'll also have a team run by someone who is an unquestioned leader.

I am still adamant that Cowher is a far superior coach to Shanahan and we should be doing everything possible to sign him instead. That said, locking Shanahan up for 5 years and making it next to impossible for Snyder to grow impatient and fire him early is "the next best thing." its certainly a step in the right direction.

Cowher isn't that great... I don't see anyone beating down his door, to coach their team, what it took him 13 years to win a Superbowl, if the Rooney's wern't so patient, he would have been fired by any other organiztion, have anyone thought, outside of buffalo, no team has come running his way, all summer I have been hearing about teams that possilbly wanted Shanny. By the way Mike Tomlin did in two years what it took Cow-herd to do in 13, his staff is great, that's why some are still in Pittsburg..... if you put a great D, which is what we have, with a Shannahan offense, what you go is a year in and year out..... top 10 team. and maybe a couple of Superbowls?

BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 02:30 PM
Not too much new here, but interesting speculation, nontheless:

Mike Shanahan will have hands full rebuilding Redskins - Peter King - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/01/05/mail/index.html?eref=sihp)

BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 02:46 PM
Cowher isn't that great... I don't see anyone beating down his door, to coach their team, what it took him 13 years to win a Superbowl, if the Rooney's wern't so patient, he would have been fired by any other organiztion, have anyone thought, outside of buffalo, no team has come running his way, all summer I have been hearing about teams that possilbly wanted Shanny. By the way Mike Tomlin did in two years what it took Cow-herd to do in 13, his staff is great, that's why some are still in Pittsburg..... if you put a great D, which is what we have, with a Shannahan offense, what you go is a year in and year out..... top 10 team. and maybe a couple of Superbowls?

No one's beating down Shanahan's door either... except us. There are only two superbowl head coaches out there now and only two vacancies. Its not rocket science to understand whats going on...

As to records, Cowher's record is vastly superior to Shanahans. Tomlin won a superbowl with a team built by Cowher. Just like Shanahan won a superbowl with a team built by his predecessor. Just like Gruden won one built by his. Cowher's teams were in the playoffs 10 out of 15 years (66%). Shanahans were in 7 out of 16 (43.7%)

Its a "what have you done for me lately league," so how do these two stack up? Cowher retired on his own after going 34-14 (0.708 winning percentage) in his past 3 years. Shanahan was fired with something like 21MM and 3 years left on his contract. He was ran out of town by one of the most patient owners in football. Why? Shanahan's record in the last 3 years - 24-24 (0.500).

In his past 10 years, shanahan made the playoffs 4 times. In three of those instances, they lost in the WILD-CARD ROUND. In ten years, Shanahan's teams advanced past the wild card round ONCE. For comparison - Cowher's last 10 years - 2 AFC Division Game Losses. 2 AFC Championship Game Losses. 1 Superbowl Victory. In the most recent 10 years, Cowher's teams made it to atleast the 2nd round of the playoffs FIVE TIMES.

Based on their history, with Shanahan, we'll be in the playoffs less than half the time with a record that hovers a little above or below 500. With Cowher, we'd be in 2 out of every 3 years. Both are upgrades over what we had with Zorn. But if you want to compare the two, its not even close. Cowher is the vastly superior coach.

Beemnseven
01-05-2010, 02:47 PM
shanahan's teams have never been perennial contenders like Cowhers, but he's never "crashed and burned." his teams were generally "in the mix" in weeks 14-17. the big positive of signing shanahan to a large, garaunteed contract is we will have stability on offense for atleast 5 years. with that stability, hopefully we can develop a franchise QB and put points up on the board regularly.

in the worst-case scenario with shanahan, we're trading a perennial top 10 defense for a perennial top 10 offense. We'll also have a team run by someone who is an unquestioned leader.

I am still adamant that Cowher is a far superior coach to Shanahan and we should be doing everything possible to sign him instead. That said, locking Shanahan up for 5 years and making it next to impossible for Snyder to grow impatient and fire him early is "the next best thing." its certainly a step in the right direction.

Cowher is "far superior" to Shanny? I don't know about that. In terms of notoriety, their marquee status, I'd say they're about even, with Shanahan getting the edge with two Lombardi trophies to Cowher's one. Cowher's team had the classic Super Bowl hangover -- Mike did it back to back, and that's tough to do no matter who your QB is.

If Shanahan is your "worst case scenario", I'd say you're in for quite a disappointment.

mredskins
01-05-2010, 02:52 PM
Cowher is "far superior" to Shanny? I don't know about that. In terms of notoriety, their marquee status, I'd say they're about even, with Shanahan getting the edge with two Lombardi trophies to Cowher's one. Cowher's team had the classic Super Bowl hangover -- Mike did it back to back, and that's tough to do no matter who your QB is.

If Shanahan is your "worst case scenario", I'd say you're in for quite a disappointment.


Just move on BHA is a Negative Nancy.

Beemnseven
01-05-2010, 02:53 PM
No one's beating down Shanahan's door either... except us. There are only two superbowl head coaches out there now and only two vacancies. Its not rocket science to understand whats going on...

As to records, Cowher's record is vastly superior to Shanahans. Tomlin won a superbowl with a team built by Cowher. Just like Shanahan won a superbowl with a team built by his predecessor. Just like Gruden won one built by his. Cowher's teams were in the playoffs 10 out of 15 years (66%). Shanahans were in 7 out of 16 (43.7%)

Its a "what have you done for me lately league," so how do these two stack up? Cowher retired on his own after going 34-14 (0.708 winning percentage) in his past 3 years. Shanahan was fired with something like 21MM and 3 years left on his contract. He was ran out of town by one of the most patient owners in football. Why? Shanahan's record in the last 3 years - 24-24 (0.500).

Based on their history, with Shanahan, we'll be in the playoffs less than half the time with a record that hovers a little above or below 500. With Cowher, we'd be in 2 out of every 3 years. Both are upgrades over what we had with Zorn. But if you want to compare the two, its not even close. Cowher is the vastly superior coach.

Wrong. Tomlin and Cowher won with teams built by Kevin Colbert, the general manager.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 02:55 PM
Wrong. Tomlin and Cowher won with teams built by Kevin Colbert, the general manager.

And Shanahan never won a thing with a team he built as defacto GM - the same thing he'd be here.

Beemnseven
01-05-2010, 02:56 PM
And Shanahan never won a thing with a team he built as defacto GM - the same thing he'd be here.

Never said that he did.

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