Nomad
01-04-2010, 05:45 PM
i've read mixed things about kyle on texans boards. some feel like you do. others say he's overrated and not that great of a coordinator himself. in either case, he'll only get better working under his father, so thats good. kyle obviously WANTS to work with his dad, so that increases the likelyhood that we'd have a good coordinator who WOULDN'T leave us to take a HC gig elsewhere. The value of this can't be overstated - look how bad the Giants D was this year without spags. we wouldn't have that problem here.
on the flip side, are there potential dangers to having a son work for his father? would other coaches on staff become disgruntled over real/percieved "special treatment" that kyle would receive? if there are problems ever develop in the family, would they affect the product on the field (or visa versa)? if Kyle ends up becoming a liability, how could shanahan fire his own son?
Doesn't matter if Kyle is that good or not! Daddy will be there to bail him out if needed.... Let's focus on years and years of having a Good GotDamn Coach!!!!
Son Of Man
01-04-2010, 05:49 PM
Doesn't matter if Kyle is that good or not! Daddy will be there to bail him out if needed.... Let's focus on years and years of having a Good GotDamn Coach!!!!
having Kyle here means that, after Shanny is done in 5 or so years, we will already have a young successor in coach place. Could be nice to have him groomed by Daddy for a few seasons!
mredskins
01-04-2010, 05:50 PM
Doesn't matter if Kyle is that good or not! Daddy will be there to bail him out if needed.... Let's focus on years and years of having a Good GotDamn Coach!!!!
He has trouble focusing on postives.
SBXVII
01-04-2010, 05:54 PM
why don't you wikipedia shanahan and cowher's coaching records? cowher's steelers were in the playoffs 75% of the time. they won the division 50% of the time. his win/loss record is superior to shanahans. he has more recent success than shanahan. his team played in a division very similar to our own. cowher's record is vastly surprior to shanahan's in every respect i can think of.
if anyone was a blind squirrel, it was shanahan - he only won 1 playoff game since elway retired. whereas his team got worse over the years, cowher's got better. shanahan's a good coach, and a great upgrade over zorn, but cowher is the superior coach. its not even debatable.
The only problem is Shanahan runs the WCO which JC has been under for the last 2 yrs. Cowher runs a Schottenheimer style offense. We basically would be definitly starting completely over most likely with terminology as well. If we stay with Shanahan the turn over would be less stressful on the players and they might adjust to it quicker since they have been already running a WCO.
Gtothearry
01-04-2010, 06:02 PM
There is a report saying that Snyder is meeting with Shannahan now and Bruce will meet with him later. Sounds like bad news to have Allen out of the mix in the beginning.
SBXVII
01-04-2010, 06:04 PM
There are a lot of people who wonder how good Cowher would have been without his staff. You don't get those same questions quite so often with Shanahan. Of course, I would think that wherever Cowher goes he would have a top notch staff. Still, some food for thought I suppose.
I'm probably more excited about Kyle Shanahan quite honestly. I think he's the real deal
Here, Here. I honestly think Kyle will turn out to be great. Plus he's young like everyone wants. M.Shanahan, I presume, will be named HC/President. Then after his 5 year deal is up maybe moves into the President roll and lets his son take over as HC. Bam. We have the young HC you all want with a fresh mind set and ideas. I don't know about anyone else but I'm excited about this idea.
I'll agree Cowher or M.Shottenheimer would have been better for our situation since I think someone with a take no BS type mentality needs to be here. But if Allen is given full control then perhaps he'll be the big bad wolf and the players will need to participate as a team or get the F*** lost.
CRedskinsRule
01-04-2010, 06:06 PM
There is a report saying that Snyder is meeting with Shannahan now and Bruce will meet with him later. Sounds like bad news to have Allen out of the mix in the beginning.
one of the earlier reports said Bruce Allen had talked to Shanahan this morning, before Redskins One took off that way. But I can't believe that today is the first communications, so it isn't like this is anything other than dotting the i's and crossing the t's on the contract language.
SmootSmack
01-04-2010, 06:07 PM
There is a report saying that Snyder is meeting with Shannahan now and Bruce will meet with him later. Sounds like bad news to have Allen out of the mix in the beginning.
Allen and Shahanan have been speaking for days (if not weeks) and spoke extensively this morning. Nothing to get worked up over.
I know that for jobs I've had I've always interviewed with my direct supervisor and the head of the department/company separately and then together.
diehardskin2982
01-04-2010, 06:07 PM
why not bring in Rob Ryan as DC
SmootSmack
01-04-2010, 06:08 PM
He has trouble focusing on postives.
Said this guy (http://www.thewarpath.net/649324-post5.html)