Report: Shanahan to DC done deal


SmootSmack
12-20-2009, 04:58 PM
According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

15% because Glazer says Shanahan wants the Dallas job?

BigHairedAristocrat
12-20-2009, 05:41 PM
15% because Glazer says Shanahan wants the Dallas job?

Yeah... isn't Glazer supposed to be tight with Shanahan? Dallas makes more sense for Shanahan for a number of reasons -

1. Dalls is not, historically, as dysfunctional of a franchise as Washington.
2. Dallas is viewed as being an "elite" franchise. Washington is not.
3. Dallas has a Franchise Quarterback. We dont.
4. Dallas has a trio of young, talented running backs. We don't even have one.
5. Shanahan wants to coach with his son, who is currently in Houston. If Shanahan coaches in Dallas, his son and family won't have to move. If Kyle has children, i imagine this could be very important.
6. Snyder is historically impatient. Shanahan turned down Snyder in this past off-season because he thought Zorn deserved more time. Jerry Jones has been very patient with his coaches, so Shanhan (and by extension, his son) will have more job security there.
7. We have all been assuming that, since Shanahan wanted to work with Allen in Buffalo, that Allen's hiring here meant Shanahan was next. However, what if thats not the case at all? What if Snyder found out that Shanahan wanted to work with Allen, and then went out and hired Allen. That, given the number of times Shanahan has reportedly already turned down Shanahan, would likely make him feel pressured and annoyed. All the more reason to sign elsewhere.
8. Allen's contract allegedly gives him final say on who the redskins draft. If the reports that Shanahan wants total control are true, then he's not going anywhere where HE doesn't have final say.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-20-2009, 05:46 PM
I think Jay Glazer is one of the best out there...but I'm not sure that's true. It doesn't quite add up for various reasons. Glazer is the only one reporting it, which doesn't mean it's not true of coures.

As for Kyle Shanahan, he might not even be retained by Houston if they make coaching changes at the end of the year. And if the Texans do want to keep him they basically would need to make him head coach to keep him from coming to DC as Assistant Head Coach.

If Shanahan (Mike) somehow ends up in Dallas and JJ convinces him to keep Garrett and his salary...I wouldn't be opposed to Kyle Shanahan here, provided we give him an experienced staff to help him out. How about Kyle as HC, and Kubiak as Offensive Coordinator :)

I don't know how kubiak would feel reporting to someone that used to report to him. that would be a recipe for lockerroom trouble if you ask me. Besides, why would Shanahan want to keep Garrett over his own son? And why would his son want to coach a division rival of his father's team? it seems like it would create all sorts of family problems. For one, Kyle couldn't go to his dad for advice. Neither could really talk to the other about what was going on at work. Using my scientific method of reasoning, Id put the chances of that scenario happening at about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

SmootSmack
12-20-2009, 05:57 PM
Yeah... isn't Glazer supposed to be tight with Shanahan? Dallas makes more sense for Shanahan for a number of reasons -

1. Dalls is not, historically, as dysfunctional of a franchise as Washington.
2. Dallas is viewed as being an "elite" franchise. Washington is not.
3. Dallas has a Franchise Quarterback. We dont.
4. Dallas has a trio of young, talented running backs. We don't even have one.
5. Shanahan wants to coach with his son, who is currently in Houston. If Shanahan coaches in Dallas, his son and family won't have to move. If Kyle has children, i imagine this could be very important.
6. Snyder is historically impatient. Shanahan turned down Snyder in this past off-season because he thought Zorn deserved more time. Jerry Jones has been very patient with his coaches, so Shanhan (and by extension, his son) will have more job security there.
7. We have all been assuming that, since Shanahan wanted to work with Allen in Buffalo, that Allen's hiring here meant Shanahan was next. However, what if thats not the case at all? What if Snyder found out that Shanahan wanted to work with Allen, and then went out and hired Allen. That, given the number of times Shanahan has reportedly already turned down Shanahan, would likely make him feel pressured and annoyed. All the more reason to sign elsewhere.
8. Allen's contract allegedly gives him final say on who the redskins draft. If the reports that Shanahan wants total control are true, then he's not going anywhere where HE doesn't have final say.

Schefter is tight with Shanahan. Don't know about Glazer per se

1. All about perception I suppose
2. See #1
3. Ok, I'll cede that one for now
4. We have Quinton Ganther you ingoramus!!!!
5. Won't matter if Shanahan is let go by Houston. Plus Houston and Dallas aren't exactly next door (closer than to DC of course). Kyle has a two year old daughter so I don't think it will be an issue to move her.
6. Ok
7. Interesting theory
8. Shanahan won't necessarily get more control in Dallas with Jones continuing to serve as GM

SmootSmack
12-20-2009, 05:59 PM
If Kyle Shanahan gets a head coaching opportunity, I really doubt he'd care if his dad was coaching a team in the same division

BigHairedAristocrat
12-20-2009, 06:03 PM
We are redskins fans, so our perception on what franchise is more "elite" is somewhat skewed. I live in North Carolina and pretty much everyone here thinks the skins are a big joke. When I go to sports bars, the most common Jerseys I see, are, of course, Panthers jerseys. Cowboys are a CLOSE #2. Regarding Jone's control in Dalls, he stepped back somewhat when Parcells was coach, i'm sure he would do the same for Shanahan if it became a sticking point.

Even if Jones doesn't view Shanahan as his ideal coach, he simply can't "afford" to let the skins land him. If he did and Jones went with Garret or someother inexperienced HC, Dallas would most certainly be at the bottom of the NFC East for a few years. Putting aside the fact that Jones has alot of pride, loves his team, and wants to win - being in 4th place isn't going to fill that big fancy new stadium to capacity week in and week out.

tryfuhl
12-20-2009, 06:04 PM
....JGibbs1 went 0-5 re-evaluated his scheme and changed it to work with the players he had. That's the mark of a great HC. .
Exactly. Gibbs was a Coryell guy (think Al Saunders for those that don't know) and ended up with a power smash-mouth offense.

skinsfan69
12-20-2009, 06:10 PM
All this Shanahan talk is really annoying. Zorn is gone, we all know that but until the season is over and Shanahan signs a contract then all this talk is just rumors. No question he's talking with Snyder/Allen but let's just wait til the season is over. We've still got 3 games to play.

skinsfan69
12-20-2009, 06:13 PM
We are redskins fans, so our perception on what franchise is more "elite" is somewhat skewed. I live in North Carolina and pretty much everyone here thinks the skins are a big joke. When I go to sports bars, the most common Jerseys I see, are, of course, Panthers jerseys. Cowboys are a CLOSE #2. Regarding Jone's control in Dalls, he stepped back somewhat when Parcells was coach, i'm sure he would do the same for Shanahan if it became a sticking point.

Even if Jones doesn't view Shanahan as his ideal coach, he simply can't "afford" to let the skins land him. If he did and Jones went with Garret or someother inexperienced HC, Dallas would most certainly be at the bottom of the NFC East for a few years. Putting aside the fact that Jones has alot of pride, loves his team, and wants to win - being in 4th place isn't going to fill that big fancy new stadium to capacity week in and week out.

Well it's elite as far as history, tradition and fan base is concerned. Although the new generation of Redskin fans were not around during the glory days. It's not elite when it comes to W's vs. L's since Gibbs 1.

The Goat
12-20-2009, 07:02 PM
Schefter is tight with Shanahan. Don't know about Glazer per se

1. All about perception I suppose
2. See #1
3. Ok, I'll cede that one for now
4. We have Quinton Ganther you ingoramus!!!!
5. Won't matter if Shanahan is let go by Houston. Plus Houston and Dallas aren't exactly next door (closer than to DC of course). Kyle has a two year old daughter so I don't think it will be an issue to move her.
6. Ok
7. Interesting theory
8. Shanahan won't necessarily get more control in Dallas with Jones continuing to serve as GM

Is this serious debate or just goofing around I can't tell?

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