Report: Shanahan to DC done deal


12thMan
12-19-2009, 05:36 AM
Nice article, from a Denver fan. A friend of mine is a huge Denver fan and he probably has a bit of a different opinion from this article. But in the end these are fan opinions.

Still, your argument against Shanahan just leads me to believe that you don't like him personally, which is fine since you are entitled to your personal opinion and I'm not here to change your personal opinion about the guy. But your facts to support your argument are really not strong at all and some are even incorrect.

Is Shanahan right for the Redskins? Only time will tell. He has experience, has coached a Superbowl winning team and has been to the playoffs many times. To me that sounds like a pretty good resume, but no one can come here and claim for certain that he is going to succeed or he is going to fail. I personally go with facts and previous record.

I agree. It's not like you land a perennial winner everyday to take over your team. I mean, how many coaches are available with just one Super Bowl win?

While I like the fact that Shanahan has won two Super Bowls, it seems to me some people around here measure success and failure by that alone. Truth is it's damn hard to consistently go to the playoffs, much less win a Super Bowl. In addition to playing well, so many other things have to go right for a team to find itself in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Unless you're playing for the Pats or the Steelers, it's just damn hard to establish that winning culture. Is Tom Coughlin a good coach? Damn right. Would I rather have Shanny though, probably. All I'm saying is unless you bring in a Bill Belichick, a Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy or maybe Andy Reid, there are no guarantees.

I'd probably take Shanahan and his track record over most guys in the NFL right now. He may very well come here and pull a Jon Gruden, but it's also highly unlikely he'll pull a Steve Spurrier. Like you said, only time will tell.

skins89moss
12-19-2009, 07:45 AM
Well Zorn did the best he could but it did not result in wins. I like the coaching staff we have now except Zorn is not head coaching material. If Gruden or Shanahan is not the next coach let Blache or Sherm Lewis get a shot at the HC positon. Didn't Shanahan draft Maurice Claret in the 3rd round?. That was a reach pick.

dmek25
12-19-2009, 08:19 AM
talking to a good friend of mine, who is also a big time raiders fan. he said one of Shanahan's best attributes is his game day coaching. as a coach, i dont know much about him, other then they were always competitive, as far as the playoffs

Beemnseven
12-19-2009, 09:05 AM
Good read here Don’t Hire Mike Shanahan (An Open Letter to Clark Hunt) (http://www.chiefswarpath.com/news/2009/01/01/dont-hire-mike-shanahan-an-open-letter-to-clark-hunt/)

It's amazing how the first thing the anti-Shanahan crowd thinks of is that he only won one playoff game without John Elway.

Nevermind those two Lombardi trophies -- they mean nothing.

SmootSmack
12-19-2009, 09:06 AM
Here's the scoop from SS who texted me:

-Shanahan was not in DC today

-Terms of a deal have been in place for a while now, the holdup was he didn't want Vinny in a decision making role, he doesn't want to take over during the season, and he wants to wait until after the Texans season is over to bring his son Kyle with him.

-He's also waiting to see what will happen with Dallas, but his focus has shifted to the Skins now.

-Skins are also interested in bringing in Doug Williams but it probably wouldn't happen until March, if it does at all. DW might not be as interested as the Skins though, thinks he may have more upside with Tampa.

Thanks for posting it Matty

wolfeskins
12-19-2009, 09:13 AM
It's amazing how the first thing the anti-Shanahan crowd thinks of is that he only won one playoff game without John Elway.

Nevermind those two Lombardi trophies -- they mean nothing.


i agree, plus his overall record in denver is pretty darn good.

SkinFan4Life
12-19-2009, 09:55 AM
Was Shanahan in Denver when Portis was there? It will be interesting in the decision to keep Portis or not.

Paintrain
12-19-2009, 09:58 AM
Was Shanahan in Denver when Portis was there? It will be interesting in the decision to keep Portis or not.

Who do you think traded him to us?

Bigreds77
12-19-2009, 10:16 AM
Marty turned things around & he got the axe. Now Zorn & his staff have the Skins playing well & now they will be fired too.

Beemnseven
12-19-2009, 10:17 AM
Well that pussy finesse offense went to the playoffs a couple of times, had a number of winning seasons, and won the Super Bowl twice.

Also, you are talking about great QBs being good regardless of the team (since you mentioned Brady), not good QBs. Brady is a great QB, Brees is a great QB, and Peyton is a great QB. Cutler is not, and most good QBs need good teams, yet you mentioned great QBs.

Hell, San Diego didn't think Brees was good enough and they let him go..and well we know what happened. The same you could say about Chad Pennington...although both of these guys also had injury problems...but anyway. I am by no means saying that Cutler is great, all I was saying that maybe he would be as successful as Marshall, Schefler, and Kuper if he had stayed in Denver (and not the "maybe"), but my main point is that this draft was for the most part successful.

Exactly. And couldn't it be that Cutler's performance has suffered due to Shanahan's departure?

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