Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

Yes you could say that too, still Schefter's point is that teams have hits and misses in the draft, and a lot of people here just generalized that Shanahan doesn't know how to draft...and well 3 years later that 2006 draft seems pretty successful and well rounded (well hard to say that Cutler is a success, but I think he could have been a success if he had stayed in Denver).

A good QB is a good QB regardless of the team he plays with. Look at Brady, even when he didn't have good receivers a few years ago he had a great season. Drew Brees, successful in SD and now NO. I rather have Campbell than Cutler who I consider over rated. I like power smashmouth football, none of this pussy finesse offense Shanahan ran, that's why he got his ass kicked in the playoffs by NE, Pittsburgh, etc. and lost his job.

A good QB is a good QB regardless of the team he plays with. Look at Brady, even when he didn't have good receivers a few years ago he had a great season. Drew Brees, successful in SD and now NO. I rather have Campbell than Cutler who I consider over rated. I like power smashmouth football, none of this pussy finesse offense Shanahan ran, that's why he got his ass kicked in the playoffs by NE, Pittsburgh, etc. and lost his job.

Hate Much?

A good QB is a good QB regardless of the team he plays with. Look at Brady, even when he didn't have good receivers a few years ago he had a great season. Drew Brees, successful in SD and now NO. I rather have Campbell than Cutler who I consider over rated. I like power smashmouth football, none of this pussy finesse offense Shanahan ran, that's why he got his ass kicked in the playoffs by NE, Pittsburgh, etc. and lost his job.

S I typically agree w/ you but not sure the assessment on Denver's problems toward end of Shanahan's tenure is legit. Denver had a horrible defense more than anything. The offense was coming along nicely year after year but come the playoffs a team has to be competitive on both sides of the ball. I mean half my family are Broncos fans for life and that was the constant complaint...especially how Denver couldn't stop the run.

I think Shany probably tends to concentrate more on offense, and if he has too much say in personnel issues his roster gets imbalanced. With a solid FO in place we should be able to keep our defense pretty competitive. I think we'll need to grab a legitimate LB and maybe a S/CB by next season, but overall it's just a matter of keeping the quality quys intact.

A good QB is a good QB regardless of the team he plays with. Look at Brady, even when he didn't have good receivers a few years ago he had a great season. Drew Brees, successful in SD and now NO. I rather have Campbell than Cutler who I consider over rated. I like power smashmouth football, none of this pussy finesse offense Shanahan ran, that's why he got his ass kicked in the playoffs by NE, Pittsburgh, etc. and lost his job.

Well that pussy finesse offense went to the playoffs a couple of times, had a number of winning seasons, and won the Super Bowl twice.

Also, you are talking about great QBs being good regardless of the team (since you mentioned Brady), not good QBs. Brady is a great QB, Brees is a great QB, and Peyton is a great QB. Cutler is not, and most good QBs need good teams, yet you mentioned great QBs.

Hell, San Diego didn't think Brees was good enough and they let him go..and well we know what happened. The same you could say about Chad Pennington...although both of these guys also had injury problems...but anyway. I am by no means saying that Cutler is great, all I was saying that maybe he would be as successful as Marshall, Schefler, and Kuper if he had stayed in Denver (and not the "maybe"), but my main point is that this draft was for the most part successful.

Hate Much?

Hate what? Just telling it like it is. I've watched Shanahan from when he was a coach here in Oakland and OC in SF and he was a good OC in SF but was surrounded by a pretty good coaching staff and players. In Denver he won with Elway, after Elway had decent seasons and got his ass whooped by teams like Jacksonville and Brunnell, remember? I think he's over rated same for Gruden and Cowher, I rather we find our own coach, not someone elses recycled coach.

Hate what? Just telling it like it is. I've watched Shanahan from when he was a coach here in Oakland and OC in SF and he was a good OC in SF but was surrounded by a pretty good coaching staff and players. In Denver he won with Elway, after Elway had decent seasons and got his ass whooped by teams like Jacksonville and Brunnell, remember? I think he's over rated same for Gruden and Cowher, I rather we find our own coach, not someone elses recycled coach.

Well...Shanahan lost to Jacksonville in 1996, the year before they won their back-to-back Superbowls so I don't what you are talking about.

After Elway, Shanahan had 6 winning seasons, and four playoffs appearances in a span of 9 seasons. His playoff loses were to the Ravens, who were on their way to a SB championships, twice to Indy (another team with a pussy finesse offense), and to eventual Superbowl Champ Pittsburgh in 2005. And you are calling this guy overrated?

Well...Shanahan lost to Jacksonville in 1996, the year before they won their back-to-back Superbowls so I don't what you are talking about.

After Elway, Shanahan had 6 winning seasons, and four playoffs appearances in a span of 9 seasons. His playoff loses were to the Ravens, who were on their way to a SB championships, twice to Indy (another team with a pussy finesse offense), and to eventual Superbowl Champ Pittsburgh in 2005. And you are calling this guy overrated?

Here's an interesting article/blog from a Denver fan.

squawking VFR: Some thoughts on Mike Shanahan's demise in Denver (http://wbcc21.blogspot.com/2009/01/some-thoughts-on-mike-shanahans-demise.html)

My biggest problem with Shanahan is that he's clearly more interested in coaching again then he is in winning ever again. I'd rather he go play his games somewhere else than my team.

He'll bring in Bob Slowik to be our DC, and Kyle Shanahan to be our OC, and well, we won't have much by way of a coaching staff. I don't think we'll have much of an edge over other playoff teams. But he would correct the major flaw in our rushing attack without majorly overhauling the blocking schemes, and we'd never have to worry about having crappy QB play, because I don't think Shanny would ever trade in Campbell for someone markedly worse than Campbell.

I think a Mike Shanahan offense would be fun to watch, but ultimately, we'd still play most of our games on the margin, and just never be a great super bowl threat under him. I really don't think Shanahan is coming back to win another super bowl. I think he just enjoys coaching a lot.

Which is fine. It's great actually. But we're only going to go as far as our talent carries us, and we don't have very many GREAT players, especially on the offensive side. We have functional talent (and youth), at times, around a pretty good quarterback, who again, isn't a guarantee to be back. A defense coached by Bob Slowik may or may not be better than a Blache coached defense (I can't imagine it would be worse), but again, Shanahan builds around the concept of comfort, rather than excellence.

In other words, I can see why Danny and Shanny are a good fit.

To clarify: I'm not saying that Shanahan doesn't want to win. I'm saying he won't do what's necessary to win, if his initial try doesn't work.

Here's an interesting article/blog from a Denver fan.

squawking VFR: Some thoughts on Mike Shanahan's demise in Denver (http://wbcc21.blogspot.com/2009/01/some-thoughts-on-mike-shanahans-demise.html)

Nice article, from a Denver fan. A friend of mine is a huge Denver fan and he probably has a bit of a different opinion from this article. But in the end these are fan opinions.

Still, your argument against Shanahan just leads me to believe that you don't like him personally, which is fine since you are entitled to your personal opinion and I'm not here to change your personal opinion about the guy. But your facts to support your argument are really not strong at all and some are even incorrect.

Is Shanahan right for the Redskins? Only time will tell. He has experience, has coached a Superbowl winning team and has been to the playoffs many times. To me that sounds like a pretty good resume, but no one can come here and claim for certain that he is going to succeed or he is going to fail. I personally go with facts and previous record.