nfl week 15

Both Roy Williams stink, can't believe this is even a debate.

I give Dallas props they dominated no all game tonight. I still think we beat them next Sunday.. In fact I think that's our only other win of the season

so your're giving the giant's game away....and you think the chargers are indestructable.

Both Roy Williams stink, can't believe this is even a debate.

Not to mention the Tar Heels lost yesterday....so all 3 stink

Seeing that Roy Williams was drafted 2 years before Sean Taylor and they have identical stats just shows that Roy Williams didnt earn anything

How do you figure? Lets compare their first 4 years. It's not fair to compare Williams entire career to Sean's, since Sean only played in 4 NFL seasons.

In Sean Taylor's first 4(3 and half actually) years in the NFL, he had 241 solo tackles, 61 assists, 2 sacks, 8 forced fumbles and 12 interceptions.

In Roy Williams first 4 years in the NFL he had 342 tackles, 61 assists, 6.5 sacks, 9 forced fumbles, and 12 interceptions.

That's what I mean when I say their numbers are nearly identical. Roy Williams deserved his pro bowls, especially if he matches numbers with arguably the best safety to ever play in the NFL.

Both Roy Williams stink, can't believe this is even a debate.

It's impossible to debate anyone who places a higher value on subjectivity than the actual stats we're comparing.

It's impossible to debate anyone who places a higher value on subjectivity than the actual stats we're comparing.

I don't need stats to see that he seems to drop any key play that comes his way or that an undrafted free agent has clearly outplayed him this year.

I don't need stats to see that he seems to drop any key play that comes his way or that an undrafted free agent has clearly outplayed him this year.

I moved on from the Miles Austin debate. I was referring to Roy Williams (safety). I've conceded that Miles is a better WR at this point in his career. However I'm not going to concede that Miles Austin has had a better career since he hasn't topped Roy's best season yet. Nor has Miles come close to his career stats. Nor has he earned a pro bowl yet (although I think he'll make it this year). While I'm using numbers to support my argument, most of my detractors are using childish name calling to support their arguments. "He's terrible", "you suck", "your a fool", "The NFL players who voted Roy into the Pro Bowl don't know what their talking about, but us Monday Morning armchair QB's do"..

I moved on from the Miles Austin debate. I was referring to Roy Williams (safety). I've conceded that Miles is a better WR at this point in his career. However I'm not going to concede that Miles Austin has had a better career since he hasn't topped Roy's best season yet. Nor has Miles come close to his career stats. Nor has he earned a pro bowl yet (although I think he'll make it this year). While I'm using numbers to support my argument, most of my detractors are using childish name calling to support their arguments. "He's terrible", "you suck", "your a fool", "The NFL players who voted Roy into the Pro Bowl don't know what their talking about, but us Monday Morning armchair QB's do"..

dude go join a cowboys board thats obviously where you belong

dude go join a cowboys board thats obviously where you belong

On ignore you go.

This is what I mean by childish antics Matty72. Since we were debating last night's game. And I've decided to hold my ground, this is the responses I get.

hopefully it will soon be everyone on the site, why do you keep defending cowboy players on a redskins board it just doesn't make sense, then to say it would be stupid to put kalisto2010 is a cowboys fan as a sig, just to turn around and put roy williams and miles austin stats in your sig is kinda ridiculous