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ditto.

What qualifies as not done jack though? Just cause he didnt win a Super Bowl without ELway?

This is his record since Elway Left
99- 6-10
00 - 11-5
01- 8-8
02- 9-7
03- 10-6
04- 10-6
05 -13-3
06- 9-7
08- 8-8

Now... I'm more in favor of Gruden as well vs Shannahan... and Shannahan outside of a Conference Title Appaerance in 2005 didnt do much in the playoffs, an the AFC West has traditionally been much weaker then the NFC East.. but I'd certainley take this over what the REdskins had the last 10 years, thats for sure. I certainly dont think he did a bad job at all since Elway left.

Thats 6 winning seasons, 2 .55 seasons and a losing season...

All AFTER Elway.

Yeah but Sherm Lewis and Blache should not be uttered in the same sentence as Gibbs. Vinny considers them all great and only Gibbs is.

it is a parting shot at Zorn, and for the Skins to release that statement, indicates Zorn is the ultimate lame duck

What qualifies as not done jack though? Just cause he didnt win a Super Bowl without ELway?

This is his record since Elway Left
99- 6-10
00 - 11-5
01- 8-8
02- 9-7
03- 10-6
04- 10-6
05 -13-3
06- 9-7
08- 8-8

Now... I'm more in favor of Gruden as well vs Shannahan... and Shannahan outside of a Conference Title Appaerance in 2005 didnt do much in the playoffs, an the AFC West has traditionally been much weaker then the NFC East.. but I'd certainley take this over what the REdskins had the last 10 years, thats for sure. I certainly dont think he did a bad job at all since Elway left.

Thats 6 winning seasons, 2 .55 seasons and a losing season...

All AFTER Elway.

And only 1 playoff victory in 10 years. I agree with you that he's a good coach, just a little overrated. He may be the best coach for us because no one can build an offensive line and solid running game like Shannahan.

What would he call Zorn a great for? Doesn't have nearly the track record.

I think it's more the naming of SLewis and GBlache. No problem saying Great Coach in Joe Gibbs and great staff like JZ, GB, SL et al. But to list the current, without a mention somewhere of Zorn after he touted him, I think was very spiteful. The Sally Jenkins article gave a good thought on it.

whats up guys im late as sh** i know (at the hospital with the wife possible little one coming today or tomorrow)but this is the best news ive heard in a long time

I think the whole deal about Shanahan being nothing w/o Elway is way overblown. The guy has won a ton of games in this league, he's a brilliant offensive mind, and he's well respected.

GMANC71 what about 2007 for Shanahan?

whats up guys im late as sh** i know (at the hospital with the wife possible little one coming today or tomorrow)but this is the best news ive heard in a long time

Sounds like you've got better news coming shortly. Congrats

Why would you assume that? Gruden praised Campbell for a lot when doing the commentary for our game. He pointed out a few things he could suggest to Campbell for improvement while saying basically "I could take this guy to the next level, he has the talent". This of course, was BEFORE Jason's game took off in the last 6 weeks. JC earned his future with the team I think.

No question Gruden likes JC. He coached him at the Senior Bowl when JC was coming out for the draft so they have a history. Monday Night is going to be very interesting!

I really hope we dont get Shanahan, he hasnt done jack without Elway.

Or, Elway couldn't do jack without Shanahan.