warpaint
12-17-2009, 10:44 AM
Gruden has always had a heavy say in personnel from what I understand. At least in Tampa.
Grudens big complaint in Tampa was that the owner did not want to open his pocket. We all know thats not the case here.
They easily could have won a Superbowl in Oakland if it wasn't for the tuck play.
SmootSmack
12-17-2009, 10:49 AM
Redskins Hire Allen As Executive Vice President/General Manager (http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Hire_Allen_As_Executive_Vice_President_Ge neral_Manager_94479.jsp)
skinsfan69
12-17-2009, 10:55 AM
I think being the GM of a team that went to the Super Bowl (and winning one) is a good start. And I believe he had a good record when he was in Oakland.
Well I wouldn't give Allen credit for the TB SB cause those were not his players. And after that SB they really didn't so anything and he and Gruden got fired. He did a nice job bringing in some older vets in Oakland. I like the move but I'm going to take a wait and see attitude. I wanted a true personel guy first, not a business contract guy. They've already got a guy doing that.
12thMan
12-17-2009, 10:55 AM
Wow! I was up early before this news broke, took a nap, just woke up and this! Wow!
I like the move, I must say.
I hope the next move is to sign JC, but let's celebrate this while we can.
KLHJ2
12-17-2009, 10:56 AM
More like Ding, Dong, the Sarge is dead. LOL.
I prefer Ding Dong Cerrrato's Gone, we have no witch, the bitch is gone!
SFREDSKIN
12-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Welcome home, Mr. Allen your roots started here with your dad. Vinny please turn off the lights and don't let door hit you on the way out.
celts32
12-17-2009, 11:00 AM
Well I wouldn't give Allen credit for the TB SB cause those were not his players. And after that SB they really didn't so anything and he and Gruden got fired. He did a nice job bringing in some older vets in Oakland. I like the move but I'm going to take a wait and see attitude. I wanted a true personel guy first, not a business contract guy. They've already got a guy doing that.
Bruce Allen is a well respected guy around the NFL who will be the face of the Redskins. There is a whole scouting department and the coach to help him find and select the players. He may not have rings but he has always been involved in good organizations...the last time the Raiders were not a joke was when he was there. He will represent the Redskins very well IMO. I look forward to my Redskins not being a punchline anymore.
BigSKINBauer
12-17-2009, 11:00 AM
Give Snyder credit for being loyal to the redskins faithful. Hiring Gibbs and hiring George Allen's son keeps the Redskins tradition alive. Regardless of results, we can't say that Snyder doesn't try to keep the skins faithful happy (outside of the prices at FedEx)
All I need is Joe Gibbs president of football operations and Russ Grimm head coach and I'll be happy.
Side question.... anyone kinda okay with Zorn keeping his job? Stranger things have happened in Redskins land.
Demote Zorn to QB coach.
skinsfan69
12-17-2009, 11:09 AM
Bruce Allen is a well respected guy around the NFL who will be the face of the Redskins. There is a whole scouting department and the coach to help him find and select the players. He may not have rings but he has always been involved in good organizations...the last time the Raiders were not a joke was when he was there. He will represent the Redskins very well IMO. I look forward to my Redskins not being a punchline anymore.
I agree.