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Gmanc711
10-22-2004, 12:47 PM
Taylor wasn't my 1st pick, I wanted to trade down and get Tommie Harris and another solid defensive player in the 1st 2 rounds. My favorite pick so far was Cooley in round 3.


Thats a interesting point, and at the time of the draft, I really wanted Taylor but agree that trading down and geting another DT would have been smarter. However, with the way our Defense has played, I'm happy with the way we went. I mean Griffen is playing AWSOME, and the other guys ( Wynn, Salve', Noble, Evans, Warner ) are all doing well in their roles too. We dont have a dominant pass rusher still, but with the unique blitzes we have, it really dosent matter at this point. I'm really happy we got Sean.

4TH RING
10-22-2004, 12:53 PM
If we had drafted Big Ben he'd be 3rd on the depth chart & would've had no impact this season. And besides he beat the cowboys (something we have'nt done in.....)
If we didn't have Taylor we'd be hurting with all the injuries in the secondary. Although we'd probably have the same record (he made some big plays against chicago) maybe one more loss. So I think it would've had a negetive impact.
If we draft Roethlisberger we would've gotten rid of Ramsey. I just don't see any team out there that would've given us his fair value due to the fact that he was injured last season & in the fun'n'done offense of spurrier he did'nt look very good. And besides I have'nt seen Ramsey start this year and I won't write him off yet. I don't think Gibbs has either. If I could've swapped somebody I would've taken Warner instead of Brunnell.
:banghead:

RedskinRat
10-22-2004, 01:04 PM
Once Ramsey takes the helm we'll be unstoppable. I'd hate to think how Ramsey would have felt with Br coming in. Not Gibbs' style at all.

Ramsey is the future, as is Sean Taylor. This team (Offense) is finally coming together.

JudgeJebus
10-22-2004, 02:02 PM
If we draft Roethlisberger we would've gotten rid of Ramsey. I just don't see any team out there that would've given us his fair value due to the fact that he was injured last season & in the fun'n'done offense of spurrier he did'nt look very good.
Didn't Miami offer us a first-round pick for him?

Bozzy
10-22-2004, 02:08 PM
You only think he's the next generation Terry Bradshaw because he happens to be playing for the Steelers! If he was on the niners, you'd say Joe Montana, or the Chargers, you'd say Dan Fouts, Houston, you'd say Warren Moon.

I haven;t seen much of ben rockthisburger, but I know I have seen much of patrick ramsey, and he looks far better.

4TH RING
10-22-2004, 02:37 PM
Miami had the #19 pick & if the trade rumors were true. I still think you don't trade Ramsey. IMO I don't think you can call him a bust yet. He's started 1 year in a offense that was flawed. Besides I think Gibbs would've already pulled the trigger if he didn't believe in him.

ChounsMan
10-22-2004, 03:01 PM
You only think he's the next generation Terry Bradshaw because he happens to be playing for the Steelers! If he was on the niners, you'd say Joe Montana, or the Chargers, you'd say Dan Fouts, Houston, you'd say Warren Moon.

I haven;t seen much of ben rockthisburger, but I know I have seen much of patrick ramsey, and he looks far better.

Bozzy, I did mention Bradshaw for the simple fact that there has not been a QB in Pitt. that has made an instant impact like Ben is making this season. Ben is the second coming of TB. Pitt. fans are celebrating the success this kids bringing their team.

I'll say this though, I consider myself a real student of the game & I know what to look for when I see a good quarter, all the way up to the way he moves his feet to the way he extends his arm when throwing under pressure. Ben is the real deal Dan Marino! LOL

Redskins8588
10-22-2004, 05:18 PM
Bozzy, I did mention Bradshaw for the simple fact that there has not been a QB in Pitt. that has made an instant impact like Ben is making this season. Ben is the second coming of TB. Pitt. fans are celebrating the success this kids bringing their team.

I'll say this though, I consider myself a real student of the game & I know what to look for when I see a good quarter, all the way up to the way he moves his feet to the way he extends his arm when throwing under pressure. Ben is the real deal Dan Marino! LOL

You say that he would be the next Bradshaw and like you said untill Ben the steelers never really had a QB make an impact like he is now. But Bradshaw really wasn't that good, I mean I live in PA and I am surrounded by Steeler fans and they even say that Bradshaw wasn't that good. Yes, he does have 4 SB rings, but at the same time steeler fans say that if Lynn Swan had any other QB throwing to him, his NFL career would have ben extened by at least 5 more years. Bradshaw either over threw or under threw his passes. Bradshaw would put the ball up and let Stallworth or Swan go up and get it.

Now Ben on the other hand looks to have some accuracy more that Bradshaw did. And Ben is a better mobile QB than him. I agree that Ben does have very good QB attrabutes(SP) and he will be good in this league, but also it doesnt hurt him that he is throwing to Hines Ward, Buress, and Randel El, or that he has Staley and Bettis in his backfield.

Defensewins
10-22-2004, 06:10 PM
....I haven;t seen much of ben rockthisburger, but I know I have seen much of patrick ramsey, and he looks far better.

It is clear you must not have seen much of Rothlisberger. I have seen alot of both Rothlesberger and Ramsey and you are wrong on this one. I watched alot of Ben R. college games in his senior year. In my opinion Ben R. was the best QB in the NCAA last year. Regardless of the stats.
Ben R. was a Heisman canidate and an incredible college QB. Ramsey was not.
Ramsey got sacked a ton in college and the pro's. Ben R. has not.

It is way to early to say Ben R. will be great, but so far in his brief NFL career he has played great.

Ramsey has had brief moments of greatness just like Ben R. but he has also had moments of sucking the big one. Ben R. so far has not, but that might change.

offiss
10-22-2004, 06:46 PM
You can't judge every QB the same, system's help and hurt QB's, some are simplified like Pitt., and other's complicated like our's, I really like big Ben, but if he was playing in our system, he wouldn't be playing end of story, The thing with the steeler's is, this is the first time Cower has had a legitimate QB IMO, the steeler's will be a real contender for year's to come now that they have a QB who is capable of winning games, instead of playing not to lose.

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