Holmgren Agrees to Take Over Browns

I agree except I don't see Holmgren being the kind of person that will alow himself to be disrespected and pushed around. His persona just dosen't coinside with a personality like Snyder.

However, I'll go on record as saying I think they should retain both Zorn and Lewis. If I could find it in me to believe for some/any reason that Cerrato will be gone many other decisions would be easier.

If Snyder wants to win he will have to give Holmgren the respect he gave Gibbs and I think he would.

If Snyder wants to win he will have to give Holmgren the respect he gave Gibbs and I think he would.

I certainly want to think you're right. Holmgren is the kind of man that will demand respect.

A buddy I work with (Huge Raider fan, setups tailgate parties were Fred Belitnekoff, Jack Tatum and other old Raiders have come by and posed for pictures and signed autographs) he was telling me that when Jamarcus Russell came in relief, the stadium started booing and half the crowd left and you could feel the air being let out. That's pretty sad.

you could hear it and see it on tv a well

didn't holmgrem give the browns a x-mas deadline too? sorry to lazy to read the article

A buddy I work with (Huge Raider fan, setups tailgate parties were Fred Belitnekoff, Jack Tatum and other old Raiders have come by and posed for pictures and signed autographs) he was telling me that when Jamarcus Russell came in relief, the stadium started booing and half the crowd left and you could feel the air being let out. That's pretty sad.

Oh yeah! When I saw Ja-fat-ass Russell come in I knew we'd won. Raiders fans may be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. I miss the Bay sometimes. Anything cool happening in El Cerrito? I heard they took over Berkeley and threatened to kill the President because of the cuts.

Oh yeah! When I saw Ja-fat-ass Russell come in I knew we'd won. Raiders fans may be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. I miss the Bay sometimes. Anything cool happening in El Cerrito? I heard they took over Berkeley and threatened to kill the President because of the cuts.

Yeah, some idiots tore up the UC Berkeley Dean's house and in El Cerrito some 14 year old kid raped some 12 year old girl in school. Lots of fucked up news around here. Luckily I'm over on the coast were things are pretty mellow and quiet, we are waiting for the waves to reach around 30 feet for the Maverick's competition, my sons classmates dad is one of the local competitors.

Oh yeah! When I saw Ja-fat-ass Russell come in I knew we'd won. Raiders fans may be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. I miss the Bay sometimes. Anything cool happening in El Cerrito? I heard they took over Berkeley and threatened to kill the President because of the cuts.I was really looking forward to a game that would be decided by JaMarcus vs. Smoot/Landry, and it was really too bad that Orakpo denied us a look at such hilarity. If there was ever an opportunity for a black hole of suck to open up on an NFL field...that was the place and time.

What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?

What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?

Must be the mustache

What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?

I'm not sure anything really does other than it shows a willingness to go in another direction. Plus he is familiar with Zorn and the WCO and I think the feeling is he would stop some of Snyder's questionable personell decisions.

What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?

Well if he came here, i think he'd have enough of Snyder's respect that Snyder would be less inclined to "meddle."

Also, for what its worth, Dinello over on that other forum said his contact with [the Browns] told him Holmgren said he was too old to work in the "toxic" environment here and that he's been informed (presumably from Zorn) that Zorn and Campbell will be out after the season and that Cerrato will be the GM.

Dinello doesn't post there very often but he's got about a 50/50 track record so take all of this with a grain of salt. I beleive he has a credible source, but you never know if what people's sources being told is true or current.

If true, i've got mixed feelings. Cerrato's done an above-average job drafting players, but I don't trust him to 1) select a capable head coach and 2) Do what he feels is best for the team if it conflicts with what Snyder wants.